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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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The best two things you are going to get out of Burning Man is a social disease and a horrible case of the crabs...
Two couples I know that are happily married with kids met at Burning Man.
Broad generalizations mean nothing.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Yes but reality means a whole more.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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They live in reality, they just met at a really fun party in the desert.
What's wrong with that?
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Because they are an infinitesimal sample of the total demographic.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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I saw a wedding at my intersection. The vows were great, the house band music, not so much.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Because they are an infinitesimal sample of the total demographic.
I think you're confusing Burning Man 'tourists' with actual Burners.
Conjecture on my part as far as your knowledge, but it seems like conjecture on your part regarding the demographic.
I camped with climbers and river guides, we had a great time, built some really cool art, and made lasting friendships.
Sounds akin to the the climbing community to me...
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Be rest assured junior, I'm not confusing anything. I'm well aware of the "Burners".
It's a clown fest. Pure and simple.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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The whole world is a clown fest dude.... look around you in the "real" world. The people sitting next to you at work are likely more diluted and misguided then anyone out there in the desert. Take comfort in the high percentage of toplessness and move on.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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There are plenty of free or nearly free underground parties every weekend in CA.
BM was over 10 years ago.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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That's what they said ten years ago gramps, get off my lawn!
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squishy
Mountain climber
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The traffic over the weekend of all the hipsters from the bay area heading back over the hills was something to see..
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Ikat
Social climber
Carson City
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Whatever BM was before, it ain't no longer.
I was sitting in a doctor's office and picked an old editions of a magazine called Town & Country. They had an article about how their poncy group of society mavens made a tour to BM. That must be the definition of jumping the shark.
Look for second-rate famewhore-celebrity influx next year to reduce the original BM formula to nothing more than a dusty Coachella for wannabe's.
It is astonishing how hypocritical the sustainability line is when you see the plastic non-recyclable garbage that is the leavings all along their trail home....
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Neat. You have nothing to offer to this conversation other than hating on something you only speculate about or have anecdotal stories to tell.
Pretty much sums up your entire posting history here.
Oh, you can kiss my ass, Chief. You've proven to be someone who argues, but doesn't listen. That's the baseline for stupidity.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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"Neat. You have nothing to offer to this conversation other than hating on something you only speculate about or have anecdotal stories to tell."
A tradition as old as Supertopo itself.
See gun threads and religion threads for similar hating content.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Full disclosure: I'm not any kind of fan or participant of BM.
From everything I've heard, BM has become something quite different from what it was 15 years ago...not unlike what happened to music festivals like Coachella. No doubt there are some growing pains & impacts that have increased, and need to be mitigated.
Is this any different in terms of overall impact than an NRA convention? Or two OR shows per year at SLC? Or a taxidermy convention?
Not really. Quit hatin', and let people do what they want to do, as long as they aren't affecting others. In this country, that's called 'Individual Liberty'.
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yedi
Trad climber
Stanwood,wa
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From the photos I've looked at over the years, it looks to be pretty cool. Anytime I can check out some art and half naked women dancing is ok with me. Maybe I can make it down there one these days.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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BM use to be about drugs, art, music and people...then it became about telling people, you went or that you will be going, all year...now it's just tourists, dust and yippies and you guys are arguing about environmental impacts like it was a goal of the event? Wow...
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Is this any different in terms of overall impact than an NRA convention? Or two OR shows per year at SLC? Or a taxidermy convention?
Not really. Quit hatin', and let people do what they want to do, as long as they aren't affecting others. In this country, that's called 'Individual Liberty'.
Sending a bunch of people to the desert where there isn't any infrastructure to support them and sending a bunch of people to convention centers that deal with influxes of visitors almost every day of the year aren't the same.
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HF
climber
I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
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let people do what they want to do, as long as they aren't affecting others
We are all affecting others, some more than others.
Do you really believe yourself what you are saying here? I almost pity you. Have a nice life and do what you want to do, just remember to not affect others while you are at it.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"....sending a bunch of people to convention centers that deal with influxes of visitors almost every day of the year aren't the same."
Ever seen the mess & waste that's left behind after an OR show? I have, more than once....let me tell you, even when it's properly managed, there's a sh#t-ton of waste & impact from that 'green' industry after every single show.
Stop being so selective about 'acceptable' impact. If the BM folks are making a mess, they need to clean it up.
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