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bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 28, 2013 - 07:39am PT
I knew that would get you guys riled up...

Jap that I work with calls himself that all the time. Bastards won't let him back to Japan because of his family heritage. (WWII general).
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 28, 2013 - 07:41am PT
Do you call black people niggers?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 28, 2013 - 07:41am PT
what color are the bastards?

here's one from your buddy and savior JC. from the lily-white Edition.

Credit: Wade Icey
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 28, 2013 - 08:12am PT
"Jap" is a good case in point...

My parents' generation fought WWII. They were taught, and learned, to disrespect and dislike, to hate even, the 'enemy.' A concerted public effort to foster bad will toward those enemies was conducted.

A key piece of this process is the dehumanizing of the enemy. They're not Japanese, they're 'Japs.' And they're not really human, well, not like us anyway. We're the good guys, they are not. The THINGS THEY DO to their conquered foes... OMG! Barbarians!!! WHO WOULD DO THAT????

So people who never met a Japanese person in their life, got an attitude about them. And began spreading that attitude. Anti-Japanese prejudice here in California has a very, very long history for example. This racism traces back for more than 100 years. Proud to be leveraging that body of work, bluering? Maybe a side trip to Manzanar is in order for you, should you ever get out that way.

I grew up hearing the term 'Jap' used in common language. So far as I knew there wasn't a Japanese person within a hundred miles of me, at any given time. Heard it on TV, heard it from my brother and friends. Heard it all the time. Didn't think anything of it.

Didn't occur to me until it was pointed out as an adult - 'jap' is a racial epithet; an insult, a derogatory term. Having also grown up in a place where I heard the daily use of the word 'nigger' I instantly understood.

Racism was foisted upon me, and done so in a manner that as a child I had no defense for. But as an adult I learned my way out of that sh#t.

Call me politically correct that I won't use the term 'digger' pine, and instead prefer to call them gray pines. You might not like my revisionist slant on language. My PC heart bleeds for you too!

If you use racial nicknames and insults then you have ZERO place to complain when they are used against you, or held againt you, or that people make judgements about your character based, in some cases solely upon, your use of those words. If that's how you want to be perceived in the world, David Duke, then relax... you've succeeded.

The rest of us have evolved. See you on the next turn of the wheel.

DMT
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jul 28, 2013 - 08:44am PT

Jap that I work with calls himself that all the time. Bastards won't let him back to Japan because of his family heritage. (WWII general).


Hi Steve,


I have to tell you, most Yonsei in the U.S. dislike being refered to as "Japs."

Eastern Idaho has a significant population, many of them potato farmers, who came here during the Japenese diaspora between 1880 and 1920. Most are very proud of their ethnic/racial heritage but I've met very few who I would call "arrogant" or believe they are better than everyone else.

I try to refrain from my own tendency of stereotyping a mass group of people by one or two "bad apple" members within it.

Most Japanese Americans make very loyal and even tempered friends...
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jul 30, 2013 - 06:54am PT
No one bitching about white on white crime and white culture of violence but this guy? Crazy assed Californians.

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 07:04am PT
bluering said
I knew that would get you guys riled up...

Jap that I work with calls himself that all the time. Bastards won't let him back to Japan because of his family heritage. (WWII general).

Many black folks refer to each other endearingly as "niggas." You should feel free to do the same.

The "I know a guy who is cool if I call him that so it's ok to do it all the time" excuse has to be at the top of "shit ignorant white people think about race" list right after "I can't be racist because I know this one black guy" and right before "we have a black president so racism is over."
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 30, 2013 - 07:25am PT
http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719

re^^^^^^^video

pretty weak stuff


not a single punch thrown
4 porta potties pushed over
no other damage

maybe that's why only one (self appointed anthropologist crackpot) dude is bitching...

shouldn't you be bitching about White-on-Sanitation vandalism?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 30, 2013 - 07:48am PT
In this age of initials, acronyms, and hybrided names I really don't see "Japs" as pejorative compared to words like nigger, kike, spic, etc.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 30, 2013 - 07:51am PT
except it's not an Acronym, initials or coined in this age. Just exactly like the others, It is a pejorative term coined by our grandfathers.
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Jul 30, 2013 - 08:02am PT
"Jap" is a good case in point...

My parents' generation fought WWII. They were taught, and learned, to disrespect and dislike, to hate even, the 'enemy.' A concerted public effort to foster bad will toward those enemies was conducted.

A key piece of this process is the dehumanizing of the enemy. They're not Japanese, they're 'Japs.' And they're not really human, well, not like us anyway. We're the good guys, they are not. The THINGS THEY DO to their conquered foes... OMG! Barbarians!!! WHO WOULD DO THAT????

So people who never met a Japanese person in their life, got an attitude about them. And began spreading that attitude. Anti-Japanese prejudice here in California has a very, very long history for example. This racism traces back for more than 100 years. Proud to be leveraging that body of work, bluering? Maybe a side trip to Manzanar is in order for you, should you ever get out that way.

I grew up hearing the term 'Jap' used in common language. So far as I knew there wasn't a Japanese person within a hundred miles of me, at any given time. Heard it on TV, heard it from my brother and friends. Heard it all the time. Didn't think anything of it.

Didn't occur to me until it was pointed out as an adult - 'jap' is a racial epithet; an insult, a derogatory term. Having also grown up in a place where I heard the daily use of the word 'nigger' I instantly understood.

Racism was foisted upon me, and done so in a manner that as a child I had no defense for. But as an adult I learned my way out of that sh#t.

Call me politically correct that I won't use the term 'digger' pine, and instead prefer to call them gray pines. You might not like my revisionist slant on language. My PC heart bleeds for you too!

If you use racial nicknames and insults then you have ZERO place to complain when they are used against you, or held againt you, or that people make judgements about your character based, in some cases solely upon, your use of those words. If that's how you want to be perceived in the world, David Duke, then relax... you've succeeded.

The rest of us have evolved. See you on the next turn of the wheel.

DMT

Hey Ding, I thought they are called Foothill Pines? That term might be offensive to the gray_meth_folks out I-Bar road...! Ha!
Anyway, you hit the nail on the head again. Great post!!!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 08:23am PT
soo pC you wont call a digger pine a digger? BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Tell you what,, if you EVER get hit by one of those green bastard cones they produce,, youll call em a lot worse things than DIGGERs!
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:21am PT
Over two-thirds of the Nikkei interned during World War II were American citizens...sadly, because of emotions after Pearl Harbor few Americans protested the order.

The system that is supposed to protect the rights of American citizens was severely trampled upon...legal scholars describe this as one of the worst violations of constitutional rights in American history. By the time the last internees were released in 1946, Japanese Americans had lost homes and businesses estimated to be worth, in 1999 values, 4 to 5 billion dollars.

Despite the internment, most Japanese-Americans remained intensely loyal to the United States. In 1943, the U.S. Army formed a segregated all-Japanese-American combat unit...the legendary 100th/442nd Regiment which fought in Italy and France and became the most decorated unit of its size in American military history.

The greatest numbers of volunteers in the 442nd came from Idaho and the Minidoka Interment Center...dozens of the families, because they were interned, could not attend the funerals of their sons and brothers killed in action. Very sad...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:25am PT
Yes, a terrible chapter in US history.

One of the camps, Topaz, was here in Utah in the middle of nowhere.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:28am PT
I lived and worked at one of those camps,, in Dog Valley CA.

Yes a bad thing was done,, but at that time, it was sadly required. Hawaii was full of "spies" for the japanese that sent them all manner of intel for the attack on Pearl. Hindsight - always 20/20..
dirtbag

climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:31am PT
Whose turn is it to explain to Ron why he is wrong?

I don't have the patience for it anymore.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:38am PT
Go ahead Dirt,, dont be a~~~ uuhh errr ,, never mind...
Cragar

Trad climber
MSLA - MT
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:39am PT
*^&$ it dirtbag, why bother.

what does sadly required mean?
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:42am PT
I think it is high time CMac started weeding out these anonymous fukheads posting from multiple accounts.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 30, 2013 - 09:44am PT
How many accounts have you had, Mr Christ?
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