How Horrible is North Dakota?

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johntp

Trad climber

socal

Mar 19, 2012 - 09:36pm PT

A masters in environmental/civil engineering? Write your ticket. Does Caltrans ring a bell? Time to get out of the low wage thinking and use your edumacation to score a good job. Can your proffs give you some leads or recommendations?

I've a friend that has a civil engineering degree; he is living quite happily in Bishop, CA working for Caltrans.

A good job and a good place to live/play are not mutually exclusive if you have an education and know what you are doing.

martygarrison

Trad climber

Washington DC

Mar 19, 2012 - 09:47pm PT

Here ya go. Have fun in North Dakota

WBraun

climber

Mar 19, 2012 - 09:52pm PT

lol looks good.

I packin up.

Meet be there, and don't be late ......

Capt.

climber

some eastside hovel

Mar 19, 2012 - 09:53pm PT

After driving by that thing several times,I can't help but wonder if that hill the cows is on is the highest point in NoDak.Biggest hill I've seen there.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Mar 19, 2012 - 09:53pm PT

Write your ticket. Does Caltrans ring a bell?

Having dealt with some of them, you will have plenty of time and energy on your hands for extra curricular pursuits.

matlinb

Trad climber

Albuquerque

Mar 19, 2012 - 11:28pm PT

What about Nevada (http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/14/10686370-nevadas-modern-day-gold-rush-creates-new-mining-jobs);

skitch

Trad climber

pdx

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2012 - 11:34pm PT

I'm trying to get a job at Caltrans, but I haven't found any postings online for jobs that I'm eligible for. I am going to stop by their office to let them know I'm around. Hopefully I'll be able to make some contacts in Bishop in the short while that I have an internship there.

Jennie

Trad climber

Elk Creek, Idaho

Mar 20, 2012 - 12:30am PT

Interesting statistics:

According to the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index, North Dakota is the second “happiest” state in in the U.S. (just behind #1 Hawaii).

Correspondingly, Thomson Healthcare (from National Center for Health Statistics) claims South Dakota has the least clinical depression rates in the nation while North Dakota isn’t far behind with the ninth least depression rate.

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Mar 20, 2012 - 01:28am PT

Hmmm if someone had to be there anyway, it might be a good place to open a climbing gym....

Robb

Social climber

The other side of life

Mar 20, 2012 - 01:37am PT

Skitch,
Don't listen to these tossers, you're gonna LOVE Williston!!!

ms55401

Trad climber

minneapolis, mn

Mar 20, 2012 - 01:48am PT

bunch of hater-dicks slagging ND. wears thin

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber

I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!

Mar 20, 2012 - 02:00am PT

any good weed growing up there?

ok then.

case closed.

andy@climbingmoab

Big Wall climber

Salt Lake City, UT

Mar 20, 2012 - 10:39am PT

I grew up in Grand Forks - lived there from when i was 3 to when i was 13. I have never set foot in ND since I left, and hope to hell I never have to again.

HCL

climber

Mar 20, 2012 - 10:58am PT

Here is what I think it all comes down to: where do you want to live? Pick that place and move there - look for work there, do whatever you have to make it happen there. All else will follow. I think most people underestimate the effect of their location on their lives. For me, it is the most important aspect of who I am - in order to be happy, I must be in a place that I love. Without that, I could never be happy. Pick your place first, then find work there . . .

Prod

Trad climber

Mar 20, 2012 - 11:01am PT

Hey Skitch,

Pick where you want to live, move there and make a life out of it. I moved to Michigan for a job, it was a great job, but, for the most part I wanted to leave after about 5 of 15 years. I'm now in Boulder, where everything is more expensive, but we are making it happen.

Prod.

laughingman

Mountain climber

Seattle WA

Mar 20, 2012 - 11:15am PT

North Dakota is right above south Dakota... Which has the most depressing county in the united states, The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. The average life expectancy is something like 48 years old for men and 58 for woman. The Reservation also has the lowest per capita income in the country.

Tony Bird

climber

Northridge, CA

Mar 20, 2012 - 11:22am PT

here you go, pal:

http://www.sondrenorheim.com/remembrance/ceremonies.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNWxwNF5HKQ

get yerself a good pair of nordic skis. it's the secret to warmth in waybelow windchill. if it was good enough for the father of modern snowsports, it ought to be good enough for you.

from that remarkable youtube documentary:

sondre reportedly carried the mail one winter through to montana, 150 miles away. the local indians thought he was "a ghost who floated and danced over the snow at a faster speed than a warrior could run."

and--"i wondered whether his living here with his family was perhaps his greatest challenge as a champion."

skitch

Trad climber

pdx

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2012 - 11:31am PT

Thanks for the advice, we are actually moving to Bishop this week in hopes of making it a go, I've worked at a coffee shop before, I can do it again! Hopefully an engineering-ish job comes up in Bishop.