How Horrible is North Dakota?

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TheSoloClimber

Trad climber
Vancouver
Mar 19, 2012 - 06:30pm PT
Driven through there twice, both times in the winter, both times I drove straight though in order to get away as quickly as possible. It's depressing at best.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 19, 2012 - 06:30pm PT
werner, you're a pussy: The next winter I get sent to North of Duluth Minnesota right next door to North Dakota.
Buttfukin cold. There were days -64 with wind chill.

that's considered the topics when you're stationed in Tower, MN in the winter... which I was when I was chasing neutrinos in the Soudan Mine...

as for North Dakota, Tim Toula wrote all you need to know in Rock 'n' Road, I'd transcribe the whole N.Dakota entry but I'm on travel right now... perhaps someone else can...

if you're considering N.Dakota, why not Saskatchewan?
nopantsben

climber
Mar 19, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
from what i understand it's not even a proper state.

also it's got the highest church density in all of the US. (churches per capita, that is)

good luck!
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Mar 19, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
One of my ex girlfriends was born and raised in Minot.On the morning Zappa died I ran into our bedroom and said "Frank Zappa died"!She sat straight up in bed with the most serious look on her face and said "so,there's only two Beatles left now"? She went and saw Titanic and came home exclaiming "wow,I didn't know it sank".That girl was cultured.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 19, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
it is the worst cultural wasteland that you can imagine.

Oh, ye of a narrow elitist bent, you talk like you can't buy beer on Sunday
there or play pool. Sheesh - try that in Kansas! I drove through Kansas on
a Sunday once. Notice the 'once'. I thought I'd driven into a neutron bomb
test area. The only movement I saw were the tumbleweeds. Damn, but was I
glad to get to Missouri.

And by the by, it has been in the 70's there lo these last few days.
No doubt thanks to eKat and her wood stove.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Mar 19, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
How far to South Dakota? Black Hills Devils Tower sound like straight shots of driving time.


but the snow and cold... just saying Tarantino did a movie on the place.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Mar 19, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
some uppity folks on this thread

it's fine.
skitch

Trad climber
pdx
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
Okay, I'm convinced, NO ON ND.

I'll just figure something out somehow, even the homeless people in Portland are fat (but portland treats their homeless well compared to other cities).
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Mar 19, 2012 - 07:54pm PT
Coen brothers...Fargo. It could have been a Tarantino movie minus the retro soundtrack and the nigger epithets..
WBraun

climber
Mar 19, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
ghost on North Dakota -- "No rocks, no mountains, no nothing."

Sounds like my kind of place.

Peaceful.

I'll go there to write my manifesto on .....?

:-)
martygarrison

Trad climber
Washington DC
Mar 19, 2012 - 08:47pm PT
Funny thread. I drove across the state a few times in the last couple of years on the way to Montana. The highlight of the drive is some huge plastic cow on the side of the freeway somewhere in the middle of the state. I mean huge like a hundred feet high or something. Other than corn fields and the cow, the place is a wasteland.
WBraun

climber
Mar 19, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
I loved the movie Fargo.

So North Dakota can't be all bad.

You guys are nuts and too many rocks in your heads.

Everything has to be rock climbing or some other stupid climbing involved.

One dimensional people .....
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Mar 19, 2012 - 08:53pm PT
They never even go to Fargo or anywhere in NoDak in the movie,it's all Minnesota.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:00pm PT
Can't all be that bad. #49 lol.

http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank21.html

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0347.htm
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
Minnesota is a climber's paradise. And North Dakota is immediately adjacent to Minnesota. You figure it out.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:05pm PT
good ice fishing, right out of your truck!

You're thinking of Minnesota. In North Dakota, there's good ice fishing right out of your toilet.

North Dakota made John Gill solo the Thimble when it was two grades harder than anything else in country. Be very afraid.
WBraun

climber
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:06pm PT
lol ^^^^ +1
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:13pm PT
Williston is like 4-5 hours from the Black Hills. Probably a little shorter if you go straight to Devil's Tower. There is a lot of work in Gillette, WY, but not apperently as booming as Williston. if a guy could get a good schedule with working straight through for a week or two and then 4-7 days off you could leave each time you get off. A lot of guys that work in Gillette share a place with several people on a rotating schedule you then could afford to keep a place in the hills. You can get a cheap place in Belle Fourche or Lead/Deadwood for your time off and there will be more climbing than you could do in your lifetime within an hour. That being said it would still suck, but most jobs do and at least you would be making some real money. A lot of people around here work for minium wage or just above, but realestate is relatively cheap for someplace with good climbing.

I have heard a lot of good things about the Mountain biking in the TRNP area and it can't be more than a couple of hours away. Might be good to take up kite skiing.

The beartooths might only be 5-6 hours away. It is a paradise.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:14pm PT
Devil's Tower (Wyoming) and the Needles and Spearfish Canyon (South Dakota) are between 5.5 and 6.5 hours from Bismark.
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Mar 19, 2012 - 09:17pm PT
My dad grew up there in the 20's and 30's hard times in a hard place, north of Bismark near Wing. In winter a horse pulled them to school in sledge. They had to crap inside the house in a bucket and use the Sears catalog ,it was too cold to get to the outhouse. My grandma never could drive or ride a bike but we were told she could break a horse. Without running water she had 4 kids in diapers. My dad was a twin and a grumpy old Polish uncle almost took one of them. Many of my relatives and people moved to Lodi in CA and a few of the old people still speak in the North Dakota (Russian-German) accent- different than the the Minnesota one most of them use now. One my great uncles moved to Texas near the boarder because the whores were cheaper, or so I was told. Went back twice in my life and that is enough.

About 4 years ago in Hawaii-Just before my uncle stroked. I bet the oldest twins to hike that trail..
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