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The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
Maybe they could bring the Dolt cart out of retirement to get the compressor down. Now that would be cool.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
Who is going to carry it down? If it ever comes down I think it well be a 5000ft tumble down to the glacier.
Jean Gurtorju

climber
land of echoes
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
Seeing rampik's picture repost my question:

Then the only junk bolts are Maestri's and you can peacefully use all the others and still get it "by fair means"???

I think it's ridiculous and highly hypocrite...
rampik

Social climber
the alps
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
the redbull helicopter was in the area, has also used garibotti and haley in these days

could lead to cabin the compressor
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:31pm PT
Personally I would very much like to see the Compressor safely removed and appropriately displayed in a museum.

Suddenly careening and crashing towards international climbers herding around the glacier seems a less appealing end.
YoungGun

climber
North
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
How much do you think Chessler could get for the compressor?
New Age II

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
@ Philo
could bring down the compressor your friends k.k.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
Could it be removed and brought down safely? Absolutely?
Will it be done by Kruk & Kennedy? Doubtful!
New Age II

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
How do you think that they brought up?
ezy

Mountain climber
Italy
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
Even the Dolomites mountain are in the area defense by UNESCO.

Finally we clean up the infamous route to 'water drop' on the Marmolada and Tre Cime di Lavaredo ...
Thanks to Hayden, Jason and also Snorky for the volunteer.

We wait with love
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
Yeah whatever dude you got the mad light shining bright in your eye too.

Yeah, it's a guiding light of stone before anyone was climbing. It's a simple benchmark to measure our impact, values, and judgment against. Funny how so many here only see the bolts, and not the mountain as it was prior to Maestri's drillfest.
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
New Age II I am sorry I do not understand the question.
New Age II

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
@ Philo
How do you think they brought up the compressor?
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
Maestri and crew hauled it up. Why?
New Age II

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
@ezy
Can we come to clean up everything in the Dolomites? uhmm I do not think
New Age II

climber
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
@ Philo

You asked, you can pull down the compressor? yes.
Why has not done good volunteers K.K. ?
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
New Age II, you will have to ask them for yourself or wait for their story like the rest of the world.

Silly Argument.
Sllly Pomp.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Everyone still posting (including me) is simply proving John Long's point--the deed's been done, the future is here, and we're all just sitting on the sideline yapping about what yesterday was all about.


It's a simple thing, really, that the vanguard - or call it what you want - will never ask permission and calling them pompous, playing God, bad and selfish men, has nothing whatsoever to do with what they do and will do. You and I are powerless over that small percentage of people doing seminal things - good, bad and otherwise. Our appraisals and evaluations of them are totally irrelevant to what they DO. That drives some people stark raving mad. They'd rather have a consensus or a panel decide and officially grant the "right' for the vanguard to do what they do.

In your dreams, Sherlock.

If you feel differently, the only thing is to DO something else. Make your own statement in the form of direct action. History is made out on the sharp end, not here. The fact that we don't like some history is reason enough to get out there and do something so history won't repeat itself. And best of all, you don't need permission to do so. But you'll never please everyone. Better know that going in.

JL
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 25, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
**"Even the Dolomites mountain are in the area defense by UNESCO.

Finally we clean up the infamous route to 'water drop' on the Marmolada and Tre Cime di Lavaredo ...
Thanks to Hayden, Jason and also Snorky for the volunteer.

We wait with love"**

Ezy-Choss piles don't count
Kimbo

Trad climber
seattle
Jan 25, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
If you feel differently, the only thing is to DO something else. Make your own statement in the form of direct action.

talking and discussing IS doing.

and often a precursor to action.

do you think the mythical vanguard does not discuss its motives, objectives, etc. and evaluate its position? (i really don't like discussing this "vanguard" in the abstract, since this "vanguard" is actually people, people who make choices, choices that are either wisely evaluated PRIOR TO ACTION, or impulsively catered to).



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