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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
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Maybe they could bring the Dolt cart out of retirement to get the compressor down. Now that would be cool.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
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Who is going to carry it down? If it ever comes down I think it well be a 5000ft tumble down to the glacier.
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Jean Gurtorju
climber
land of echoes
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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Seeing rampik's picture repost my question:
Then the only junk bolts are Maestri's and you can peacefully use all the others and still get it "by fair means"???
I think it's ridiculous and highly hypocrite...
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rampik
Social climber
the alps
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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the redbull helicopter was in the area, has also used garibotti and haley in these days
could lead to cabin the compressor
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:31pm PT
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Personally I would very much like to see the Compressor safely removed and appropriately displayed in a museum.
Suddenly careening and crashing towards international climbers herding around the glacier seems a less appealing end.
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YoungGun
climber
North
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
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How much do you think Chessler could get for the compressor?
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New Age II
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
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@ Philo
could bring down the compressor your friends k.k.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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Could it be removed and brought down safely? Absolutely?
Will it be done by Kruk & Kennedy? Doubtful!
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New Age II
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
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How do you think that they brought up?
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ezy
Mountain climber
Italy
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
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Even the Dolomites mountain are in the area defense by UNESCO.
Finally we clean up the infamous route to 'water drop' on the Marmolada and Tre Cime di Lavaredo ...
Thanks to Hayden, Jason and also Snorky for the volunteer.
We wait with love
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
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Yeah whatever dude you got the mad light shining bright in your eye too.
Yeah, it's a guiding light of stone before anyone was climbing. It's a simple benchmark to measure our impact, values, and judgment against. Funny how so many here only see the bolts, and not the mountain as it was prior to Maestri's drillfest.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
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New Age II I am sorry I do not understand the question.
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New Age II
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
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@ Philo
How do you think they brought up the compressor?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
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Maestri and crew hauled it up. Why?
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New Age II
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
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@ezy
Can we come to clean up everything in the Dolomites? uhmm I do not think
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New Age II
climber
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
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@ Philo
You asked, you can pull down the compressor? yes.
Why has not done good volunteers K.K. ?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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New Age II, you will have to ask them for yourself or wait for their story like the rest of the world.
Silly Argument.
Sllly Pomp.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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Everyone still posting (including me) is simply proving John Long's point--the deed's been done, the future is here, and we're all just sitting on the sideline yapping about what yesterday was all about.
It's a simple thing, really, that the vanguard - or call it what you want - will never ask permission and calling them pompous, playing God, bad and selfish men, has nothing whatsoever to do with what they do and will do. You and I are powerless over that small percentage of people doing seminal things - good, bad and otherwise. Our appraisals and evaluations of them are totally irrelevant to what they DO. That drives some people stark raving mad. They'd rather have a consensus or a panel decide and officially grant the "right' for the vanguard to do what they do.
In your dreams, Sherlock.
If you feel differently, the only thing is to DO something else. Make your own statement in the form of direct action. History is made out on the sharp end, not here. The fact that we don't like some history is reason enough to get out there and do something so history won't repeat itself. And best of all, you don't need permission to do so. But you'll never please everyone. Better know that going in.
JL
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Jan 25, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
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**"Even the Dolomites mountain are in the area defense by UNESCO.
Finally we clean up the infamous route to 'water drop' on the Marmolada and Tre Cime di Lavaredo ...
Thanks to Hayden, Jason and also Snorky for the volunteer.
We wait with love"**
Ezy-Choss piles don't count
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Kimbo
Trad climber
seattle
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Jan 25, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
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If you feel differently, the only thing is to DO something else. Make your own statement in the form of direct action.
talking and discussing IS doing.
and often a precursor to action.
do you think the mythical vanguard does not discuss its motives, objectives, etc. and evaluate its position? (i really don't like discussing this "vanguard" in the abstract, since this "vanguard" is actually people, people who make choices, choices that are either wisely evaluated PRIOR TO ACTION, or impulsively catered to).
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