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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 26, 2011 - 04:47pm PT
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I'm on the road as we speak after ovetnighting at Sam's Throne in AR. Yesterday, late in the afternoon, while top roping a short moderate, a foot hold, the size of my palm, broke off, falling approx. 35 feet, striking the unhelmeted belayer on the head. Fortunately, he did not loose consciousness nor did he drop the climber but I was standing nearby and took control of is break-hand and lowered the climber to the ground. Visibly, he suffered a small laceration to the right parietal scalp. He was also evaluated at the local ER where a CT scan came back unremarkble. He was released within the hour.
Brad is a 20 year old local of Ozark Arkansas who has no insurance and we have no idea how much his bill will set him back. I told him I would do my best to raise some money. If you can help in any way please make a payment to his PayPal account using this email address; Bradcook527@gmail.com. Thank you.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:05pm PT
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That is harsh and I for one understand. Try to let the tribe know how much is needed.
I would auction of a piece of my art or a cartoon original if that would help.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:08pm PT
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Count me in for a sawbuck, but who's gonna hold the green and make sure it goes for medical bills?
(I'm doing the same for LK).
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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You are a good man Ron and your efforts on LK's behalf are greatly appreciated.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 05:25pm PT
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I was thinking if you email me I can give you his address and you can mail him a check directly. Anybody else have any ideas?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:30pm PT
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Tell him to setup a PayPal account. Clean and easy...
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:37pm PT
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Surprise, I agree with Bluering. A PayPal account helped me in my hour of desperate need. It is free and easy to set up.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
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Thx...will do! What information will I need to post his name or account # once the account is set up?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 26, 2011 - 05:48pm PT
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TD, all you need is his address to his Paypal account. Post it here.
I can prolly throw some cash at him.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
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I just updated the original post with Brads pay pal information. I just spoke with him and he is forever grateful for anything and everything that this produces. As soon as Brad gets the bill, I will post that information when it becomes available. Thanks again.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
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Kudos to Skip for hunting down the State medical help programs even though he probably doesn't believe in them.
In California, they will even cover stuff retroactively in some counties if you apply soon enough
Peace
Karl
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Nov 27, 2011 - 07:02pm PT
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"Kudos to Skip for hunting down the State medical help programs even though he probably doesn't believe in them."
 Thought I was the only one who noticed the tinge of a certain 'ism that was being embraced by some unlikely characters.
Let the board know the bill, the board can help.
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Hilt
Social climber
Utah
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Nov 27, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
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When I was sick and out of work, there was a county aid program that payed for my medical bills. There is no shame in needing help. There is shame in not dealing with one's bills.
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jmap
Social climber
NC
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Nov 27, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
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CT Scan = $$$
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2011 - 07:47pm PT
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I undestand Hank but then again a CT SCAN, I'm being told, can run into the $3K range?
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2011 - 07:52pm PT
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Just looked it up...average cost of a head CT, $200-400.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 27, 2011 - 07:56pm PT
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Maybe more like $1200-1400.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 27, 2011 - 08:01pm PT
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The other thing is: if you can't get the state medical thing to help, it's important to negotiate with those guys.
For example, say they want to charge $1500 for a CT scan. Guess what? Blue Cross probably pays $600 for that same scan for their insured patients. They have negotiated a lower price but they stick it to the uninsured who can afford it least.
So if the cost is out of reach, you make a deal to pay them $50 to $100 a month and after a year, you offer them 50 cents on the dollar to settle the rest of the bill. They still get more in the end than they would if you were insured and you don't get as screwed
peace
Karl
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bradcook
Trad climber
Ozark, MO
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Nov 28, 2011 - 06:54pm PT
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Hey Im Brad from Gary's original post. Thanks so much everyone. Ive been apart of things like this before but never been on the receiving end. The climbing community never ceases to amaze me. I will definetly take all your advise on talking with those organizations and the hospital. And when I know how much it is I will post it. But I do not expect any money from you guys. Although I feel like no matter what I say some of you still will give something, and for that I am very appriciative. Your advise has been awesome. Thanks again everyone.
-Brad
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
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Bump for Brad
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