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John Moosie
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Beautiful California
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Oct 14, 2011 - 11:12am PT
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The first 40 minutes of the new Zeitgeist movie explain some of the problems people face with how their body handles food. It talks about people during WW2, some of whom were starved while being pregnant. It goes on to show just how much that affected those who were the child in the womb.
It is very interesting to watch. I haven't watched the rest yet, so don't know about that.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1633613/ZEITGEIST-Moving-Forward-ot
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scuffy b
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dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
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Oct 14, 2011 - 02:50pm PT
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I would also like to thank Mike Friedrichs for his level-headed and informative posts.
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matisse
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Oct 14, 2011 - 03:12pm PT
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Peter, good luck with the knee-I am less than 10 years behind you on the knee replacement trail unless a miracle occurs. (I've been fortunate enough to have been able to maintain a normal body weight-my whining about being too fat to sport climb aside).
Everyone that I know that has had one replaced raves about how great it is, and how they should have done it ages ago. It, oddly enough, is not supposed to be as painful as an ACL reconstruction - if you have experience with that.
Sue
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 14, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
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The difficulty with knee, and other joint replacement surgery, being that the replacements typically have 10 - 15 year lifespans, and aren't easily replaced. Which is why they prefer to wait until there's no other option, preferably when the patient is in her/his 60s or older, and so may not live long enough to need a replacement.
According to a cousin who is an orthopedic surgeon, anyway.
Still, aren't we lucky to have modern health care? There's an awful lot of stuff we do that we'd probably think twice (or more) about if it weren't for knowing that medicine will often do a good job patching up our broken bits.
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matisse
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Oct 14, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
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MH- Yup, that is a problem for us (relatively) young ones with elderly knees, and a second knee replacement doesn't do nearly as well as the first. I am still hopeful that we may see advances in medical (as opposed to surgical) treatment in the next decade.
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monolith
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berzerkly
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Oct 14, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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McDougal on diabetes.
Funny how today drugs actually make the problem worse. Classic error in focusing on small details, instead of looking at the whole picture.
Interesting how the massively fat people, who don't develop diabetes, get so huge because their insulin remains effective to continue to drive the fat into fat stores.
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Mike Friedrichs
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City of Salt
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Oct 14, 2011 - 07:43pm PT
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Locker - add Alzheimer's disease to your list. It seems to have a connection to all the metabolic diseases.
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Oct 14, 2011 - 07:57pm PT
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Anders,
I understand the thinking of the orthopedic surgeons regarding waiting for a joint replacement, but I think it's kinda misguided, I also think the artificial joint makers should make the parts that wear out replaceable.
Anyhow, lets say I'm 50 and active and my knee is blown. The surgeon says, well you should wait 10 years to get the joint replaced. That seems kinda backwards, instead of having a good replacement knee in your 50's that will let you get out and enjoy life, you're supposed to hobble around in pain for 10 years, then you finally get the knee when you're older and less active.
Worse let I'm in my early 40's with my left knee starting to bother me more and more due to tearing the meniscus on two different occasions. I need to get it checked out sooner than later, hoping a replacement isn't in the future.
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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 14, 2011 - 08:22pm PT
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Yes - oddly one of my other cousins (brother to the orthopedic surgeon), and his wife, work in England for a company that designs artificial joints. One of few in the world.
The real problem is that modern materials and designs don't quite measure up to what nature took billions of years to evolve.
It does point to the importance of looking after yourself, avoiding violent and high-impact sports particularly, and keeping fit.
Presumably surgeons vary, and surely there are some who will operate on younger and more active patients, even if they're not completely crippled, taking the trade off of improved quality of life when younger for a possible lower-quality re-replaced joint when older. And perhaps in the meantime technology will improve, for first or second joint replacements - there are lots of yuppies in developed who'll be crying for it.
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DanaB
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CT
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Oct 14, 2011 - 08:46pm PT
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Go to the National Library of Medicine. There are quite a few obesity research journals open for browsing. You'll get a clear of idea of the role of genetics in obesity.
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