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Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2015 - 11:45am PT
Here's the whole classic discussion of Don Serl's "dryfooting" on Foot In The Gravy.

David Harris

Sep 19, 2010 - 11:13pm PT

Once upon a time climbers in Vancouver would gather at a sleazy bar called The Cecil every Wednesday night. Drink bad beer, talk about climbing, tell lies, make plans... The usual. One drunken evening somebody mentioned a route named "Foot in the Gravy."

Silly little 30-foot route in the Little Smoke Bluffs at Squamish. 10c on an 75-degree wall with two bolts.

And this started an argument. Don Serl was there that night, and he happened to say something like "Oh, right, neat little edging problem." To which Konrad Kraft replied "Edging? You must be thinking of something else. 'Foot in the Gravy' is a slab. Smearing all the way."

"Smearing? No, it's little edges from bottom to top."

"Edges? Are you nuts? It's a slab."

"Slab? No, you're nuts. There are edges everywhere you look. There are so many edges I could climb it in crampons."

"Bullsh!t."

"Not bullsh!t. I could front-point the whole thing."

"Wanna bet?"

"Sure."

So, the following weekend, everyone who had been in the pub that night wandered out to the Burgers & Fries cliff in the Smoke Bluffs, and watched Don lace up his mountain boots and lash on the crampons. And carefully and concisely front-point his way up 30 feet of 10c as a light rain began to fall.

Of course most of us had climbed the thing a hundred times in sticky shoes, but Don had that edge mentality that comes from spending thousands of hours in stiff boots on steep rock.

So what's the takeaway? Maybe it's in your own mind. Or, if you'd been standing where I was standing, you'd have been able to see the tier of cliffs above, and like me you'd have been torn between watching Don front-point his way up "Foot in the Gravy on a toprope" and looking up to watch Peter Croft solo "Flying Circus."

I mention this because the light rain had influenced Peter's choice of footwear...

He took off his shoes and climbed it in his socks.



Tami Knight

FOtos from my "red book" of Don Serl on Foot in the Gravy . It was because Kon Kraft said it couldn't be done in crampons that Don went for it. Too dodgy to lead the thing but he did the route on toprope.





Anders Ourum
I placed the bolts on that dumb thing, tried it, but for some reason didn't actually do it - although it's basically a three move 'climb', and not very hard. Ghost, were you with me then?



David Harris
Nope. I've climbed it, of course, but wasn't involved in the FA.

It's gotta be what? 30 feet? Hard to even call it a "route" but it holds a special place in my memory because it was one of the routes I climbed with Andy (MH2) on my first day of climbing after getting my leg bolted back onto my body.

I love this stuff. How's the book going Anders? ;)

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 25, 2015 - 01:16pm PT
Check out the belay in the second picture of Don on FITG.

And who is the belayer?
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
Sweet Hip Belay! :)

I don't know who the belayer is. I tried to cheat but Tami couldn't remember when she originally posted it... Lol
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 25, 2015 - 02:16pm PT
Sweet Hip Belay! :)

And no need to bother with one of those silly "climbing harness" things.
Scrubber

climber
Straight outta Squampton
Feb 25, 2015 - 02:44pm PT
Before the rains arrived this afternoon, I finally finished the retro-scrubbing and re-bolting of Movin' to Montana. My sincere apologies to anyone who went to do this old classic over the last two years and had to work around my fixed lines. I don't make the time I used to for route cleaning, and sometimes get distracted for months at a time.

I first did this route in '99 or so, and was quite captivated by its tenuous linking of small discontinuous features. Back then there was still one or two pins on the traverse at the end of the third pitch, and many on the fourth. Nowadays the route has gotten a reputation for being quite runout in that area. From asking a few of the Old Guard, It sounds like the pitch 3 traverse used to be a quite well protected clip-up, with pins every few of body lengths.

Overall, the route had a mish-mash of fixed protection ranging from pitons, (all but one were completely rusted to bits), 1/4 inch stainless, and carbon steel bolts, and 3/8 stainless and carbon steel bolts. Most anchors had at least four bolts of varying age, size, and quality. All bolts that were not 3/8 inch stainless were upgraded, and all of the pins were replaced with bolts unless solid natural pro was available in it's place or close by. Anchors were consolidated to 2 good bolts.

The cracks on pitch 1 and 3 had filled in with soil and weeds quite badly in spots, and got the royal treatment. The small cedar that you wrestled through half way up the tips corner on pitch 1 also had to go. This may up the grade a notch, time will tell.

Please give the route some lovin' this season. It's an inspiring line, and it's easy to imagine the first ascentionist's excitement of leading off into the unknown with a hand drill and some pins. With big exposure and tenuous thin cracks and slab, the route still retains its spicy feel. Even the rap over the big roof to get down is pretty fun.

K
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 25, 2015 - 03:48pm PT
Well done Kris. I hope the route sees more traffic now.

And re the belayer in the photo, It looks kind of like Doug Fox, who was certainly a friend of Don's, but I'm not sure. Hard to imagine him in the pub with us scruffier types, but who knows?
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2015 - 06:06pm PT
Nice work Kris.

Eric did one more route yesterday. Travis had cleaned up a nice 5.7 crack left of the burgers walk off.

He left his rope on it, so i snapped some pics of Eric on the solo FFA


Bearbreeder scoping the route.

Starting up. A little solo FA cleaning.
Tall Can Al spots.


I'll just clean this lock up a bit...

Reaching for glory.
Scrubber

climber
Straight outta Squampton
Feb 25, 2015 - 06:19pm PT
Here's the only phone shot I took today of the tips corner on M2M after the stump was pulled. Sorry for no scale in the picture... Its purple to blue TCU's for about 10m. Old school 10d. For you Valley folks, it's similar to the last pitch of The Moratorium, but not as steep.

K
RyanD

climber
Feb 25, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
Looking forward to checking this out scrubber, thanks for the efforts- post more pics when u get a chance!!
TheSoloClimber

Trad climber
Vancouver
Feb 25, 2015 - 09:05pm PT
Hey KW - is that picture of the first pitch of Moving to Montana Commando Crack, as it is called in the guidebook? Or above Commando Crack?
Scrubber

climber
Straight outta Squampton
Feb 25, 2015 - 10:22pm PT
It's the pitch above Commando Crack. Most folks start up to the right near the base of the Java Jive slab. I sure wish there was some way to divert the water flow that seeps out of the bottom half of Commando Crack. It's wet for so long that it needs a scrub every season that it actually dries.
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Feb 26, 2015 - 08:39am PT
Another thanks, Kris. An excellent choice for some work.
le_bruce

climber
Oakland, CA
Feb 26, 2015 - 09:08am PT
This thread makes me want to move to Squamish for a few lifetimes (then back to Yos for the long haul).
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2015 - 11:44am PT
Thanks Tad and Lebruce! I often wonder how many taco regulars lurk here.

Kris- MTM looks super fun. Thanks for all your hard work.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Feb 26, 2015 - 12:16pm PT
Not sure I'd consider myself a regular, but I lurk a lot. Great thread!!
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Feb 28, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
I never met him, but he sounded like an amazing guy. Condolences to family and friends.
wayne w

Trad climber
the nw
Feb 28, 2015 - 08:39pm PT
My Condolnces to Tami, and Paul's friends and family. If you google his name there are many interesting pieces written about him over the years. He was a very talented visionary.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Mar 2, 2015 - 10:18am PT
Aw sh#t. What a shame.

Check out his Flickr feed here. In addition to many mountain pics there are lots of digitally retouched scans from classic early 20th century magazines, which was another hobby of his.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/paulmalon/
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2015 - 10:23am PT
My condolences to Tami and all his friends and loved ones. Thanks for the link Dru.
Scrubber

climber
Straight outta Squampton
Mar 2, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
I'm sorry to steer this away from the sad news of the passing of Paul Malon, but we need the community's assistance.

I've been asked by the coroner's service as a member of Squamish SAR to post the following press release:



March 2, 2015

BC Coroners Service seeks public assistance with identification

VANCOUVER – The BC Coroners Service, assisted by Squamish Search and Rescue and Squamish

RCMP, is seeking the public’s help in recovering some skeletal remains from the Stawamus Chief

near Squamish.

On Feb. 27, 2015, these agencies were made aware of the possibility that skeletal remains had

been found in the upper south gully of the Stawamus Chief where climbers could exit on treed

ledges left from the "Squamish buttress" route into a gully. As a result of receiving this

information, the agencies entered into a multi-agency recovery exercise in the area on Feb. 28.

During the recovery exercise, it was noted that an additional person or persons had apparently

entered the area at some point between 3 p.m. on Feb. 26 when the remains were last seen,

and noon on Feb. 28. It is believed that this person or persons may have unknowingly become

involved in the recovery operation.

The BC Coroners Service would like to stress that there is no suggestion that this person or

persons had any improper motives nor that they are in any legal difficulty as a result. However,

the BC Coroners Service would like to speak with this person or anyone else who may be able

to assist with this recovery.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Metro Region coroner at 604 660-7731 or text the

Whistler-Squamish coroner at 604 815-3567.

Media Contact:

Barb McLintock

Coroner, Strategic Programs

BC Coroners Service

Barbara.mclintock@gov.bc.ca



Thanks for any help you may be able to provide. If you'd feel more comfortable contacting me directly with any information you may have, please feel free.

Kris Wild
Squamish SAR
604-815-8637
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