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Trad climber
boulder, Colorado
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 12, 2011 - 11:10pm PT
He is looking at spinal surgery and needs to cover his copays. He would be most grateful for anything you can do.
Brokedown - you out there?

Social climber
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:01am PT
WHAT ? And he's going through a divorce as well isn't he? Philo!?!? Can you please chime in here with this discussion? Whussup with you?
John Moosie

Beautiful California
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:08am PT
Tami, Phil talks about his upcoming surgery on this thread. Spinal degeneration with lots of side affects that have given him trouble for a number of years, but it sounds like the surgery could really help him.


I Can't send much, but would like to help. My paypal account is currently a mess, so I would need an address to send a check.

Trad climber
boulder, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2011 - 12:22am PT
Thanks for responding guys. Philo probably would be reluctant to ask for help so I thought I'd do it for him. Tami it seems like when it rains it pours. It sounds like a crisis situation - not elective. Reminds me of when I had to have a similar operation years ago and the surgeon told me to go home and try not to move until he could get me scheduled. I had an excellent outcome and Philo should as well.
I am waiting for his address and will post it as soon as I can.
John Moosie

Beautiful California
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:28am PT
Instead of posting his address, maybe you should just email it to those who want it.

Trad climber
boulder, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2011 - 12:33am PT
Good idea John. Should have thought of that.

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:49am PT
My cash position is miniscule until a large account receivable pays, but I'd like to help if I can. Please send me detials. Thanks.


Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:13am PT
//Cross posted from the hyperreflexia/clonus thread.//

OK here is the dopey skinny. After meeting with the neurosurgeon and his team Thurs, I have been scheduled for spinal surgery post haste. (8/31 or as much sooner as they can arrange it). Apparently i am more than lucky to still be walking let alone bummed that my Elvis Leg would bounce off 5.11 foot holds.
C3 to C7 are badly trashed and pinching all but the merest of energy flow through my spinal cord and branch nerves. The imagery clearly shows several bone spurs, like guillotines, threatening to sever the cord at any wrong moment (Like the fall off the ladder a few weeks ago or the fall off the approach to the West Ridge in Eldo before that. Fortunately that fall into the river only resulted in the bashed elbow that went all gross and fugly. CrimperGirl jokingly said the blown bursa looked like an angry red scrotum bulging out of my elbow. Eweeee.
The prognosis if all goes well is for a very complete recovery with only minor limitations.
But there is no option for improvement besides the knife. And way too much risk not too have it done NOW.
The neurosurgeon believes that the myriad of ailments that have plagued me for several years are related to spinal degeneration and should fully abate after slice and dice time, Including the episode of neural damage that had me believing I was heading for amputation just last year.
It is amazing knowing how well this diagnosis ties together and explains so much ailing.

Apparently these spinal strangulations go along way to explain why so many Tacos think I am such an as#@&%e, no flow to the brain. HAHAHAHAHA....

This was an extremely startling turn off events. All of these semi-debilitating ailments that for years have plagued and baffled me are tied into the spinal damage. Foolishly I ignored the pain and pushed through the limitations, wrongly assuming my two decade old prosthetic knee was my only health concern. It all makes sense now but it was only after the symptoms affected my 12 surgery leg that testing led to the discovery of the time bomb in my neck. I can't begin to tell you how lucky I feel that this has been discovered and so comparatively easy to remedy. But I also can't even begin to express how terrified I am. Not of the surgery or future but of my past several years. I had no idea how close to the edge my regular dice rolling had me. Bobert is right, asking for help is the hardest thing for me to do and if not for the need and urgency I would not ask at all. Mr, Culp sir, my friend, thank you for thinking of me.

Yes Tami divorce and moving to new digs really strained my finances but not being able to work more than a day or two at a time for the past four months drained me dry.

The positive thoughts mean the world to me thank you all.

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Aug 13, 2011 - 08:14am PT
I can help out a bit, please email me an address.

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 13, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Post some Paypal info, or another means to help, Philo.

Trad climber
the flat water trails...
Aug 13, 2011 - 11:15am PT
MANY thoughts and prayers to you!!!!

Wishing you a peaceful, speedy recovery, and healing on all fronts..

steve shea

Aug 13, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
Philo, I've had a similar speedbump on the road of life. Lots of degeneration, bone spurs etc. These resulted in aches and pains that were chronic and at times debilitating. But, like you ignored them and pushed on with exercise and stretching thinking it would go away. Then in Jan. 1995 while skiing here in Jackson, I got hit from behind by an out of control snowboarder in a blind side turn. I was completely taken out. Broke some teeth, three ribs and then my neck really started to hurt. I never went to the doctor. I went to the dentist. I knew my ribs were broken but that had happened before so I diagnosed and treated myself. The neck was more painful but I still thought It would get better. I was scheduled to go on an expedition to Nepal so in late March, while at the doctor getting my third world country shots, my condition was finally discussed. I was sent to a neurologist. With a look of horror on his face, he said I had been walking around with a broken, severely degenerated neck. He would not even let me drive home and put me in a neck and head brace. I had surgery four days later. C4,5 and 6 were fused using bone from my own hip. The good news is an almost perfect result. The worst pain was actually from where they took the bone. My range of motion is a little less that's all. I don't notice it and can carry on normally. Still ski 75 to a hundred days and still climb. You'll do fine! My only regret is not getting it checked out sooner. Send me the address. Best, Steve

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:24pm PT
Steve thank you for the completely relevant history and the incredible outcome. It is really good to hear these success stories. I am so glad you have had such wonderful results.
My friend lauren di Scipio has set up a paypal page that should be up in a couple of hours.
But if anyone wants to pm me for my street address please do.

I can't not adequately express how touched I am by folks responses.
SuperTopo is truly a most remarkable family.

From all of my heart thank you all!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:36pm PT
I still have several of these signed Half Dome 50th Anniversary pitons and would like to make one available here in support of this fundraiser.

These have been selling for $200. with all proceeds going directly to help Philo. Only 23 were signed and numbered by Royal Robbins, Jerry Gallwas and Mike Sherrick shortly after the event. Contact me if you are interested in one.

Happy to help out here as I have been in helping Roy and Rich in past fundraising efforts.

Cheers- Steve

Social climber
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:51pm PT
hey there all, say...

oh my, wish i could help someway, but sure can't, i am obligated to various family that had to help me, ... but:

i sure can pray, and sure will, for philo...

and if there is some other things that come up, you never
know maybe i can help there, like: encouragement or something, etc,
down the road...

someone helped me help-out for pat here, just a bit ago...

and--i do still have a 40 shawl, if someone wanted to give that income
to philo, i could send the shawl... :)
or a box of earrings, :)
dreamcatcher, etc... :)

any gals, let me know... or anyone needing an anniversary gift for a wife, :)

will get right on to the praying..

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:53pm PT

I'm very sorry to hear of your upcoming surgery. I suspect that your quality of life will be improved by having it done.

Until my real estate transaction is settled, I'm currently unable to chip in other that a miniscule amount, but will do so after I get back home again (travelling right now).

All the best, my friend!


Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 13, 2011 - 01:00pm PT
You are all so wonderful!
Here is the paypal donation page that Lauren set up.


Neebee your thoughts and well wishes are worth thousands!

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Aug 14, 2011 - 10:33am PT
Thank you all for the well wishes, concern and encouragement.

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Aug 14, 2011 - 10:49am PT
So good to hear that you are on the right track man!! What a relief it will be to have it behind you.

I will donate, but only if you vote Repub in 2012.

BWA HA HA HA Hhhahahahahaaaa!!!

The new new evil


Trad climber
The state of confusion
Aug 14, 2011 - 12:31pm PT

Mr. Grossman, you are uber great!
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