Who is the Gal in the 1946 AP Photo? Old Timers?!?

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karabin museum

Trad climber
phoenix, az
Aug 22, 2017 - 06:51pm PT



It might be. But if this was a promo photo for REI in some way, I don't think they would have displayed a used rope with frayed ends to show their product. The PA carabiner is definitely 1940s so this photo would be a few to many years after REI got founded....but still a badly frayed used rope is in the photo.


rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 22, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
There's no reason to assume it was a promo photo. The Andersons' ran REI out of their attic for several decades, so plenty of time for the PA carabiner to show up.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Aug 22, 2017 - 07:50pm PT
It doesn't look like a posed photo to me.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Aug 22, 2017 - 08:14pm PT
She doesn't look like Mary Anderson to me. I would guess a professional model that LOOK magazine chose. She is very attractive and doesn't look athletic. The jaw lines don't seem to be the same.

Who knows?
karabin museum

Trad climber
phoenix, az
Aug 22, 2017 - 09:15pm PT

rgold - the PA carabiner is not the issue, the frayed used rope in the photo is. The photo looks like it was taken in the moment, not posed. But quality photo for sure!





LAhiker

Social climber
Los Angeles
Aug 23, 2017 - 10:50am PT
Maybe I missed something here, but it sounds like it's known that it's an (apparently uncredited) AP photo taken in 1946. Someone also mentioned the Tetons.

Steve, how did you come across the photo, and how do we know what we know about it? Is it known where the photo first appeared?

The reason I ask is that though it's fun to guess who the woman might be based on the photo itself, perhaps one could take another route to find out more about the circumstances in which the photo was taken. That might help identify the woman or at least confirm or disconfirm our guesses.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 23, 2017 - 11:05am PT

Look at Mary Anderson's mouth/lips in this photo and compare with the other photo - thin lips, similar form, looking "decisive" in both photos. Very similar, if you ask me...

Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Aug 23, 2017 - 03:01pm PT
She doesn't look like Mary Anderson to me. I would guess a professional model that LOOK magazine chose. She is very attractive and doesn't look athletic. The jaw lines don't seem to be the same.

Nose, lips, end of mouth, jaw line...yeah, doesn't look the same to me either.

My bet is that she's a model (which is why she'd be hard to ID).

Some facial recognition person/program might provide more substance...

Good sleuthing!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Aug 23, 2017 - 03:11pm PT
So we're agreed that even if the photos isn't of Mary Anderson - and it may not be possible now to prove, either way - that it should be her?

It may be possible to contact her family, perhaps via REI or via contact information in her obituary, to ask.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Aug 23, 2017 - 04:41pm PT
Can't you just ask Beckey?
jbaker

Trad climber
Redwood City, CA
Aug 23, 2017 - 04:44pm PT
I tried TinEye (which does a reverse image search) and Betaface (which tries to match faces) but without any results.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Aug 23, 2017 - 04:52pm PT
She looks a little like my first wife, Lora. But in 1946 Lora would have been four, so guess not.


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zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 23, 2017 - 07:27pm PT
No way the photo in question is Mary.

Look at the eyebrows and the unidentified woman's dimples.

EDIT: After looking at enlarged view, I'll change that to could be Mary. She has glasses on and a dimple.



Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 23, 2017 - 07:42pm PT
Not Mary, model in photo is way too petite
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 11, 2017 - 09:22pm PT
Could it be Gwen Moffat?


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