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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 12, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
I hear you.
John M

climber
Feb 12, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
I hope this story gets more coverage. People need a better understanding of the real cost of war. There are thousands of ways it cost us. And it costs those who fight in them.

And I'm not saying that we should pension everyone. I'm just saying that most of our focus is on the heroics. And we fail to see the long term costs.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Feb 12, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
The Chief,

Fact is, he, being an "Operator" with extensive combat time, is most likely qualified for numerous VA disability bene's that will add up to a couple grand a month for life.

What makes you think they [VA] will award him 100% which is close to 3 grand? The most he will end up would be around 50% which is only under $900.00 a month.

Plus the VA is not the greatest in health care. As for surgery sure he might get a great doc but still 80/20% chance of getting it right. As for seeing his first interview on his conditions it will still take after 9 months of starting to get help and months to correct the problem.

And as for the meds VA only can afford certain ones since they are expensive. They are still using 50 year old medications. Met one guy that is taking one that is $100.00 3x a day plus $$ for a few others to mellow him out. That is just one returning Vet that waited a year to get into the VA system. Hear it all the time.

VA Seeks to Reduce Claims Process Time
Week of February 11, 2013

Credit: lostinshanghai


John M

climber
Feb 12, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
Chief, Perhaps you forgot, or didn't notice. But lostinShanghia is a combat vet from Vietnam. Maybe times have gotten better. I certainly hope so.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Feb 12, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
Hey Chief,

Seems you are not informed, course when have you ever been.

Here is link or PDF you should get the past behind you and be more educated on the subject. Think you would know but seems you are part of the problem and not helping with the solution with the VA.

Credit: lostinshanghai


http://benefits.va.gov/transformation/docs/VA_Strategic_Plan_to_Eliminate_the_Compensation_Claims_Backlog.pdf

I see you arenít posting 24/7 like you did before guess those PTSD classes finally helped you find some direction in your life.

At least I fought you didn't.


lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Feb 12, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
You help so much, how many Vets do you tell the side effects of their medications that are causing many problems and booze making it worse.

Sounds like that is your problem maybe you should stop drinking and see the light instead of crawling in the dark.

Get out of the past and move on. Cry baby.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 12, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
The Cheif is taking time to help folks using whatever expertise he has gained. That's really what matters most it seems to me. Who can you really help and is that a priority for you.

He sure presents a prickly exterior on this forum and seems to enjoy the confrontations too.. lol

On every level that sounds like a USN Cheif to me.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Feb 12, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
"Truly amazing how folks as yourself constantly need to resort to personal insults as your strength to attempt to prove your invalid points."
"
Now that is class."

Have you read any of your old posts seems maybe go back and see yourself in the mirror. Look like you needed anger management but you erased those.

As for my rating 100%; on a classified mission in '68, was declassified by Bush a few years back; a tale what was going to happen 8 months later in A Shaw Valley and the future.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
The army has some rad guys too.

A friend of mine:

Credit: S.Leeper
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 27, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
I'm sure he is, looks like he's been to a ton of schools, I dunno many of those ribbons, but that's an Infantry Badge, it's not a Combat Infantry Badge. Just sayin'
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 27, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
He's since been in combat...old picture, he's also an LTC now.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 27, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
Salute to those two TGT.. Exemplary Americans.
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
Navy Seal on one of the survival of the fittest was in last place on the survival run.

All the climbers left him in the dust by a mile he was far back there.

Bad ass climbers make navy seals look bad .......

Climbers also kicked Army Rangers asses too!

Give Dean Potter a gun and train him to kill and he'll take out all the Navy Seals .....
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 27, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Werner, being a SEAL is about endurance and fatigue whilst persevering on radical assaignments.

Fitness is just one aspect. Being a SEAL is also a head-game that Potter would probably sh#t his pants in.

SEALs are the ultimate in combat surveillance and combat. Climbers are different,.

My links again;

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/469758/SEa-Air-Land

I did this before, but yeah, I appreciate them!!!
T2

climber
Cardiff by the sea
Mar 27, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
I have been fortunate enough to have the privilege to work with the SEALs. I cannot emphasize enough what a privilege and an honor it is for me to get to share my passion and skills of climbing with these guys. Working and getting to know some of the team guys over the last couple of years have given me a whole new perspective on what the teams and all military personnel actually do for every single person that lives under our flag.

I have been very lucky as a climber and what climbing has given back to me. Big trips, filming projects, rigging gigs, whatever it may be, getting to work with the Naval special forces is by far, the pinnacle of my climbing career.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 27, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Seals are not normal human beings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=p-ieBlnvxmk&feature=endscreen
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
Seals are not normal human beings:

WTF is the matter with you?

You watch a you tube video and then know Navy seal?

Be careful now.

I'm warning you.

better watch out .......

Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 27, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Bad ass climbers make navy seals look bad .......

No sh#t, when I was in Afghanistan they all stayed in the base. The Afghans hate the foreign troops more than anything in the world, that's probably why. I usually wore a shalwar kamiz and fit in fine. Here's a picture of me ten years ago on the *outside* of the Bagram base:

Don Paul riding T34 on the Shomali Plains
Don Paul riding T34 on the Shomali Plains
Credit: Don Paul
WBraun

climber
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:01am PT
Don Paul

That's a big gun you have there.

I don't think Joe Hedge will approve. :-)

Then again the doctor Ken thinks they're not normal humans.

We're all born, eat, sleep, mate, bleed and die. Where's not normal?

The only time things change is when the mission starts and the switch turns on.

The dentist does the same thing when it's time to pull the tooth .....

:-)

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