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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
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Check your link typing. Couldn't bring it up.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Cattle Country- yeah for about 100 years. The ranchers in the west are more on the public dole than any so called "welfare mom" in an urban slum. We are supporting ranchers thru are tax dollars on public lands in their money loosing efforts to raise cattle on marginal land. More wolves and fewer ranchers would make the west a better place.
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dirtbag
climber
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They should be required to eat the wolves.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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let them be Real Men and kill the wolves with Bowie knives.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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The size of the things is striking alright. Bigger than any other wolves I've seen.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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The paw on the wolf in the photo Rox posted.
These photos were published around the state and the event was investigated by Idaho Fish and Game. Apparently she didn't have a wolf tag.
Someone claims to have shot a 217 pound wolf near Hamilton, Montana. There is a photo on the internet. I don't know if Game authorities verified the weight.
I believe all dead wolves in Idaho are weighed. Fish and Game claims more immature wolves are taken because they are more curious than the fully adult pack members.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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I hear that once the Injun population gets big enough again, they're going to be taken off the endangered species list...Some of them top out over 200, from what i've seen. Got a 4 incher for when that day comes.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Got a 4 incher for when that day comes
You gonna shoot the injun or make love to it?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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In search of a little hard data on the subject of wolves I went to the Idaho Fish & Game Dept. website.
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/wildlife/wolves/
At the end of 2010 there were 109 packs of wolves living in or visiting Idaho. Estimated wolf population was 705.
The above chart shows confirmed livestock (not just rumored) wolf depradation in Idaho. I suspect the real total would be somewhat higher.
Year to date dead wolves from hunting in Idaho.
Seems to me: we have enough that we can share some wolves with California.
You are all invited: if you want to visit and take one, or several home.
(they are sooooooo cute and cuddily!)
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Fritz
Thanks for the data
approx 300 cattle, sheep and dogs killed by wolves per year (mostly sheep)
And in response we kill 1/6 of the total wolf population in 2011?
Do the wolves rear pups at the rate of 1 pup to 5 wolves to adulthood each year to keep the balance?
Seems like a helluva price to exact on a threatened population for 300 domestic livestock.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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What I consider interesting about the Wolf Depredation statistics I posted: is the steep drop in livestock depredation in 2010 & 2011.
In 2009: the first hunting season since wolf reintroduction, 108 wolves were killed by 11/17.
By Judicial order there was no 2010 wolf hunting season in Idaho.
2011 wolf hunting season kills are 101 by 11/3.
This N.Y. Times 2009 article, has the Idaho wolf population at the end of 2008 at 850. As I mentioned previously: the wolf population here at the end of 2010 was estimated at 705.
The article also says this about wolf reintroduction:
The program was such a success that the wolf population in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming — about 1,650 at the end of 2008 — is now five times the goal set for reintroduction. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/11wolves.html
I remember a wolf biologist from Alaska stating that wolf harvest numbers here would drop steeply after hunting started, due to wolves changing their behavior around humans. Maybe with hunting season every-other year, wolves have not yet “wised-up” to hunting season.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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RJ, aren't those wolves descended from the "buffalo wolves" of Alberta? 200 lbs. seems mythical
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Go wolves! Livestock is a cancer that kills more people in a year than wolves have since the beginning of time.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Thanks Fritz, that's a better link to the video.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2011 - 11:16pm PT
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That wolf probably outweighs even me!
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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The introduced ( non-native) Mackenzie Valley subspecies of wolf has killed almost half of Yellowstone’s coyotes and over 70% of the elk population in the North Yellowstone herd to date.
This video of wolves killing a coyote is gruesome. Please use discretion in viewing or presenting it to children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCvLzDNWz0
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