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Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 13, 2010 - 05:31pm PT
A friend from North Idaho sent me this link to the Bonner County Daily Bee
newspaper. Once again, the wolves are in the news, and raging "out of control."

http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article/78780c6c-ee2b-11df-001cc4c083286.html

I hope I didn't make a mistake in copying this long link.

Well it appears that the page isn't current anymore, but it can be found by using the newspapers search feature using the words wolves, and hunters.

The article is entitled "Duo Fends off Wolfpack."
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
Nov 13, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
Brokedown: Your link got me as far as the newspaper, but I then had to do a search. This link should be faster. http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_78780c6c-ee2b-11df-8860-001cc4c03286.html

Seems like the hunters were very spooked by the whole thing. Mark me down as being on their side.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
I had the same problem, thanks Fritz.


Did those losers expect 'Dibs'?
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Nov 13, 2010 - 05:54pm PT
So the hunters killed something big. Left it for a day in wolf and grizz country, and then were surprised when one of the above critters wanted to keep the meat?

Duh.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
In today's world if it wasn't for human/human interaction, there wouldn't even be guns, as we know them.

Have you ever even seen the guns that olympic shooters use?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:23pm PT
Of course not...

Where's Rox?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
Thank Gawd,"boise"!
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:38pm PT
Think of the children!

We must do everything we can as a society to protect our precious selves from each and every threat that the world can produce. As the epitome of universal evolution, it is imperative that our genetic uniqueness be preserved at all costs.

I look forward to the day when even Band-Aids are no longer produced as the world will have been made so safe that not one child will suffer even the gentlest of paper cuts.

These aptly named "animals" have shown utter disregard for our wonderfulness and must be controlled.

I urge you to write your Democratic Congressperson immediately and demand that all creatures with any potential to bite, claw, scratch, infect or infest be banished from our sacred country.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
I dunno-the practice of killing an elk, moose, or other really big animal sometimes involves leaving it, or part of it overnight due to time-of-day considerations. If you haven't noticed, it's getting dark by 5:00 PM these days, and is doing so even earlier at the latitude of North idaho...

If you read the story carefully, the carcass/kill had not yet been "claimed" or otherwise "disturbed" by wolves. Yet! As usual, the horses gave the first warning that something was amiss. Packing the .44 Magnum was definitely all that saved both their a$$es. And, yeah, they (the hunters) were spooked--who wouldn't be? I'm sure the coyote was there for the offal and internal organs, not the bulk of the animal.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:51pm PT
Wolves in Wyoming and this corner of ID have chased and snapped at cyclists. At least two wolves have been destroyed in WY for aggressive behavior toward riders.

I came down from the ivory towers of wolf fancy after the non native wolves destroyed the moose population in targhee creek a few miles above our family cabin... always carrying a big can of pepper spray. The girl I ride with carries a hangun with birdshot ammunition.

Interesting article here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/general/columns/story?columnist=swan_james&id=5131109
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:56pm PT
Like, there's none of them going into the Elk refuge in Jackson this year? Give me a break.

When you're a suburban hunter and you leave a kill, you can't forget that you're on somebody else's turf. Shouldn't that be obvious? If it isn't, don't "hunt".
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2010 - 06:58pm PT
Reason I posted this: the states of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming are now in discussions of how they get the "new" wolf de-listed from the ESA. It is NOT the original native wolf, but a new and entirely different species!

I don't go outside and away from my pickup unarmed any longer. When I went up in the hills last Saturday to get a load of firewood along with a neighbor--we were both packing.
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Nov 13, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
We must do everything we can do as a society to protect our precious selfs from each and every threat that the world can produce.

First thing we gotta do is protect us from ourselves.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 13, 2010 - 07:05pm PT
Ever wonder if our Great Grandparents would think we have turned into a nation of wimps and weenies?

My Great Grannie lived next to the swamps of what is now Hilton Head Island Resort. In her day, she never ventured outside without a sidearm - if not for the snakes, then for the occasional swamp cougar. Never heard her think twice about it.

Oo Oo - I moved to the Wild West and now I find that sharp-toothed things also live here. Can't we put them in a zoo or something because that furry beast made me spill my latte. That moose ate my petunias. That coyote munched my shi-zsu.

We are a nation of neutered pansies.

We deserve to be taken over by the Chinese.

John Wayne would cry.





Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Nov 13, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
Like, there's none of them going into the Elk refuge in Jackson this year? Give me a break.

If you're refering to the moose...moose rarely go to the refuge. Most stay higher...they can travel in deep snow better than elk.

The elk in NE Idaho winter in Sand Creek and the Junipers, not Jackson Hole, the moose stay close to their summer range.

Maybe you were answering someone else' post. ??
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 13, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
I wonder if the hunters had scent-marked their kill with their mocha latte infused pee - if that would have deterred the beasts?

"Hey Romulus, this elk smells like Starbucks!"

"Don't touch it Remus, that belongs to the hairless ones".

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 07:14pm PT
Broke, I'm from Wyoming. I'm on your side. I have a family just up the road from you, who live much of the time on fifty odd acres in the black hills, none of whom own guns. Can you really convince me, or anybody, that they need to "pack" to keep themselves safe from immigrant wolves? Aren't paranoid rednecks, and meth labs, the real, bigger, threat?

Jennie, oops, saw on rereading that you had switched to Moose, from
Elk, my bad. Still, it's a circle of life thing, check out the biome of the wolves and Moose on Isle Royal;http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/wolfhome/home.html
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2010 - 07:19pm PT
I also pack during hunting season, not to shoot any game, but to let any a$$hole shooting in my direction that there's "something out there that shoots back." We also have the occasional bear around here, like the one that went into my neighbor's shop building and scared the bejezus out of his 83 year old mother!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
Ricky-

When I last pissed on an elk, it smelled like Maxwell House. That's all we had in the camper.... :>)

P.S. Starbucks hadn't been invented yet!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 13, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
Thank you Broke, a few posts up.
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