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Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
The ARE the South American mafia, quite literally.
Last I knew, Mexico was in North America! (flame)
Gringos are so ethnocentric that they don't even know where the USA is on a world map! I'd bet that you think you are an American, and that citizens of Mexico are not Americans. There is a proper Spanish word for citizens of the USA - "estadounidense" ("estadounidenses" plural). Yanquis are so ethnocentric that there isn't even a word for it. One would have to use the phrase, "Citizen of the United States of America" to be accurate.
(end of rant)

The latest numbers being commonly quoted on the Mexican "drug war" are 26,000 killed, since late 2006 when President Calderón stepped it up. Today I read 28,000. Those stats are no doubt highly inaccurate and used for political purposes. Nevertheless, that is an astonishing toll. That's almost half way to the 58,000 estadounindenses killed in Vietnam.
Aleister Crowley

Trad climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:38pm PT
".... rule out people...."?
pc

climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
If you smoke dope or consume other illegal drugs, you're part of the problem. Take personal responsibility.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
Drop in the bucket compared to Vietnamese losses JM.




pc--- Buy domestic!
pc

climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
Ron, I certainly support local growers. Just not "that" type of grower.
cheers,
pc
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
The only way to stop the drug cartels is to remove the monetary support. The only way to do that is to legalize everything and have our gov't sell it cheaper than the cartels could. In order to keep people from being stoned immaculate in public is to set up "stone zones" across the country where you can go and get wasted without worry of doing damage to others. Sort of like dizzyland for deadheads (actually, that was the beauty of dead concerts...).

I propose we use one of the channel islands right off our coast, the black rock desert, an island in Puget Sound, etc as these areas, make people sign liability waivers, and let concessions set up to sell whatever is needed to conduct the pursuit of happiness.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
Last I knew, Mexico was in North America! (flame)
Gringos are so ethnocentric that they don't even know where the USA is on a world map! I'd bet that you think you are an American, and that citizens of Mexico are not Americans. There is a proper Spanish word for citizens of the USA - "estadounidense" ("estadounidenses" plural). Yanquis are so ethnocentric that there isn't even a word for it. One would have to use the phrase, "Citizen of the United States of America" to be accurate.
(end of rant)

The latest numbers being commonly quoted on the Mexican "drug war" are 26,000 killed, since late 2006 when President Calderón stepped it up. Today I read 28,000. Those stats are no doubt highly inaccurate and used for political purposes. Nevertheless, that is an astonishing toll. That's almost half way to the 58,000 estadounindenses killed in Vietnam.

Do you have point??? WTF are you saying?

And skepty's solution is legalize everything? Do you really think that'll work? They still grow and produce the coke there. By legalizing it you do what??? Just make more junkies?

Do you idiots think of consequences???? Or do you just want to have fun unrelenting, with no regard???

Fools.

Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 4, 2010 - 05:32pm PT
Do you have point??? WTF are you saying?
Yes bluering, I have a point. Sarcasm is wasted on the people who can't understand that Mexico is in North America, not South America.
Mexico is part of N-O-R-T-H America.
So, Mexican narcotraficantes are not "South American mafia." Clear enough?

Btw, sorry for the attitude. I should be climbing this holiday weekend. Or surfing. Anything but sitting here overlooking the fog on the beach :(
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 4, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
The cartels of mayhico are just like the corporations of america wreaking havoc on its' citinzenry while calling the shots for the government....viva la corporati.....rj
Ricky

climber
Minister of Belles-lettres
Sep 4, 2010 - 05:46pm PT
It's not so much that bluering is completely ignorant of geography, it's more a strange combination of nativism and an ability to rebrand apparently any word or term regardless of actual meaning.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:05pm PT
WE DIDNT CROSS THE BORDER

THE BORDER CROSSED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 06:33pm PT
Yes bluering, I have a point. Sarcasm is wasted on the people who can't understand that Mexico is in North America, not South America.
Mexico is part of N-O-R-T-H America.

Now you're just splitting hairs. Everyone considers North America to be the US and Canada and South America to be everything south of our loose border...

You probably know this too, but would rather dabble in stupid subtleties rather than take on the issue.

And yeah I did do geography with Mexico, Central America, and the SOUTH AMERICA, but us gringos use a generic term for everything SOUTH of our border.

SOUTH America!!!
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:40pm PT
Everyone considers North America to be the US and Canada and South America to be everything south of our loose border...

If "Everyone" means citizens of the USA, then you have just made my point about ethnocentrism. Thank you.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:44pm PT
Weird, I was taught geography in Communist Russia that North America included everything down to even south of PANAMA.

Here is a map of North America, from free world maps http://www.freeworldmaps.net/northamerica/
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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
Since providing only one source can be questioned as being biased,
here is wikipedia's map of North America
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nick d

Trad climber
nm
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
Everyone?

Maybe everyone stupid.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 06:47pm PT
If "Everyone" means citizens of the USA, then you have just made my point about ethnocentrism. Thank you.

Well, I don't call it that, but if you have an official name, that's cool.

You are also walking away from the reality of this thread without remarking on it. What say you?

As for your ethnocentrism, do Mexicans behave in an ethno-centric manner? Do they have a term for NORTH of the border peolples??? Or are they innocent of classifying peoples?
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:48pm PT
The only solution now is US Military intervention, tanks, planes, drones, the whole enchilada.

Ala Blackjack Pershing. And yes, I've been shot at and I've been to far with with drug gangs.


The evil one
Firestone 10B
Dr. F.

climber
So Cal
Sep 4, 2010 - 06:49pm PT
Yea, another fear mongering thread for Bluey

Yes, I so agree, those Mexiacn Mafia guys are so going to get us

I even heard that there were beheadings in Arizona, and kidnappings galore

Oh wait, those stories turn out to be total BS, just like all of Bluey's fearmongering crisis

I will wager its not half as bad as we hear,

Now the Governor of Arizona is about to be sued for creating an atmosphere of terror in Arizona, when none existed, and Billions of dollars in income have been lost to the state
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 07:00pm PT
Fatty, I have not only been shot AT, but I have been SHOT.

I see no reason, like you do, to bring it up like it is something to brag about. It's NOT, it HURTS.

Why don't you join the REAL military and "serve" if you think you are such hot stuff.

Fuking three old.
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