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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 4, 2010 - 08:35pm PT
The cartels of mayhico are just like the corporations of america wreaking havoc on its' citinzenry while calling the shots for the government....viva la corporati.....rj
Ricky

climber
Minister of Belles-lettres
Sep 4, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
It's not so much that bluering is completely ignorant of geography, it's more a strange combination of nativism and an ability to rebrand apparently any word or term regardless of actual meaning.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Sep 4, 2010 - 09:05pm PT
WE DIDNT CROSS THE BORDER

THE BORDER CROSSED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 09:33pm PT
Yes bluering, I have a point. Sarcasm is wasted on the people who can't understand that Mexico is in North America, not South America.
Mexico is part of N-O-R-T-H America.

Now you're just splitting hairs. Everyone considers North America to be the US and Canada and South America to be everything south of our loose border...

You probably know this too, but would rather dabble in stupid subtleties rather than take on the issue.

And yeah I did do geography with Mexico, Central America, and the SOUTH AMERICA, but us gringos use a generic term for everything SOUTH of our border.

SOUTH America!!!
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 4, 2010 - 09:40pm PT
Everyone considers North America to be the US and Canada and South America to be everything south of our loose border...

If "Everyone" means citizens of the USA, then you have just made my point about ethnocentrism. Thank you.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 09:44pm PT
Weird, I was taught geography in Communist Russia that North America included everything down to even south of PANAMA.

Here is a map of North America, from free world maps http://www.freeworldmaps.net/northamerica/
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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 09:46pm PT
Since providing only one source can be questioned as being biased,
here is wikipedia's map of North America
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nick d

Trad climber
nm
Sep 4, 2010 - 09:46pm PT
Everyone?

Maybe everyone stupid.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
If "Everyone" means citizens of the USA, then you have just made my point about ethnocentrism. Thank you.

Well, I don't call it that, but if you have an official name, that's cool.

You are also walking away from the reality of this thread without remarking on it. What say you?

As for your ethnocentrism, do Mexicans behave in an ethno-centric manner? Do they have a term for NORTH of the border peolples??? Or are they innocent of classifying peoples?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:00pm PT
Fatty, I have not only been shot AT, but I have been SHOT.

I see no reason, like you do, to bring it up like it is something to brag about. It's NOT, it HURTS.

Why don't you join the REAL military and "serve" if you think you are such hot stuff.

Fuking three old.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
Fatty, grow up.

People who really do have something to brag about, DON'T.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
Buy domestic!

Like the "domestic" they were growing in Yosemite?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 10:25pm PT
Funny, or not surprising, a right-winger mentions violence on the border and is called a racist and maybe soon a xenophobe...

I'm not surprised, just wondering when people on the other side get tired of this. It ain't racism. It's border control and stability. How do you run a country with no border controls????

It's insane! And anarchy!!!!!!!
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
By legalizing it you do what??? Just make more junkies? Do you idiots think of consequences???? Or do you just want to have fun unrelenting, with no regard???

Oh, I'm definitely voting for the fun! But I think your calling us idiots is a bit beyond the pale. I've refrained from name-calling and I would appreciate it if you would too, but maybe that's beyond your maturity level.

You seem to think that people have the inability to control themselves. Perhaps that's true for you, but most of the people I personally know don't suffer from that problem. You might want to research some of the recent studies (The Portugal Policy is one of many) that show when "junkies" are given unlimited access to pure drugs, they eventually wean themselves off and have less health problems because they aren't being exposed to the adulterants used to cut the drugs. Right now drugs are available to anyone who wants them precisely because there is so much money involved in the distribution. Take that away and people will find something else to peddle. Maybe gold coins...

You might also want to look into the history of the prohibition of drugs. There you'll find that the laws (Harrison act, et al.) were largely enacted as a result of racial fear-mongering.

We have laws against public intoxication that would cover people being stoned in public. We have employment drug screening to prevent people being stoned at work. Alcohol by most metrics is more dangerous than most recreational drugs and smoking is responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of people each year, both of which are legal.

Is that enough "thinking about the consequences" for you, or do you need someone to show you which buttons to push on your keyboard to do some actual research on the consequences of legalization?



bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
What also pisses me of is all the lurkers here who would normally agree with me, remaining silent!

This is a problem in our country. People bitching and feeling down privately, yet not speaking out!

Speak out!~!!!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
You seem to think that people have the inability to control themselves.

Are you actually condoning the legalization of coke??? Heroin?

EDIT;

Being the pratical person I am, and to show you I'm not a leftist loon, I say build the dang fence, and be down with it

Smartest thing you ever said.....we have found common ground. High five!!!!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
Bluey....i kinda agree with you on eliminating the CAR Tell but tremble at the thought of a brow-beating from Norton...rj
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:33pm PT
Did you not read my post? Give it a try, it's in English. And click on the link & read that article too. You might just learn something.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
Did you not read my post? Give it a try, it's in English. And click on the link & read that article too. You might just learn something.


Why don't you summarize and tell me what you found interesting.??? I don't read sh#t at someone's whim. Tell me your point, and provide a link to document any 'facts' you mention....

Are you new here?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
Fatty: Again, try to get this. No one, but you, gives a sh#t.


RottenJohhny: Forgive me as I grew up in Communist Russia, what is a CAL?

Dumbshit Norton.
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