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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Actually, the Mexican police have been stepping up their action for some time now, some with the help of the US military. This is one crazy-ass war, that is for sure.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 03:50pm PT
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k-man, the police can't handle it. Just yesterday a car bomb detonated at a police station killing a commander and maiming 30 others. The military needs to be involved (and they are now).
Everyday a police commander is executed by these rats. I haven't heard of US Mil participation other than Nat'l Guard on 'observation' missions at the border.
I do know that multiple Predator drones will be deployed (unarmed) for surveillance. There are one or two up right now.
Bottom line? The Mexican military needs to confront these jokers. The bad boys are highly trained para-military with good firepower. Right now the do as they please. But the Mex Mil is stepping up. That's good.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 04:16pm PT
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Funny, AC, they were running BP enlistment ads on right wing radio...I considered it.
They were also running free chopper-pilot training if signed on to the company who would hire you. All the Viet-Nam era guys are retiring and they need pilots.
I was leaning towards BP, but the location was a deterrant. And I was never a fan of military-style 'boot-camps'. I could prolly suck it up and do it, but it ain't for me. I'll stick to manufacturing. If they re-state a shortage of good rednecks, I may reconsider.
What do you think of the recent violence by the Zetas down there?
Today's violence;
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=304811&D=2010-09-04&SO=&HC=1
Only 2 commanders shot dead....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
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Well see, this is part of the problem. Every time a BP agent fires his weapon, HE is investigated as an aggressor. Everyone knows people coming across the border illegally are the aggressors.
They don't necessarily need to all be shot, but I think the BP should have a bit more faith from the DOJ and authorities as to why they fired a weapon.
F*#king bullshit ROE again.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 04:32pm PT
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AC, I don't think you understand the types that are crossing our border other than the ones 'doing the work Americans won't do".
These are bad guyz. You almost need special ops guys down there to dominate their skills. They have .50 sniper rifles, man! That's about a mile accuracy if you relatively trained on it.
You need to fight fire with fire, bro. Put some SEALS down there, maybe 2 teams. Seek and destroy mission.
The Zetas are tough guys. Think of them as mercenaries. Let's quit f*#king around and just do them!
This too;
Terrorists across the border?
http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=299408&D=2010-06-22&SO=&HC=2
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Yeah, the narcos (as the Mexican locals call 'em) don't seem to have a problem with beheading the Chief of Police, or anybody else who appears to have a chance to cross them. The local papers don't report on the happenings any more because they shoot up everybody at the paper if any type of account comes out--even if it's just to say shots were fired.
When I was down at EPC in March, there were 15 beheadings in Acapulco in a week, police captians, judges, laywers, etc. The whole deal with dissolving bodies, it's rowdy.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Yes, "lets". Good to know you "thought about" joining the BP, I'm sure those actually patrolling are in awe of your "almost, sorta kinda, thought about it", heroism and patriotism.
Yet another armchair warrior, screaming into the void between bouts of wiping away the Cheetos crumbs.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
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Will, f*#k you! I have other duties in OUR system. I was never meant for LEO, even though i respect those dudes.
Why is it guys like you reject that? I support LEO but that's not my place in society. I'm a producer and manufacturer. Is that hard on you????
I perpetuate production of gear. i support our guys though.....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
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It's always amazing how you rule out people....
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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second from right, has to be Locker?
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Juan Maderita
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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The ARE the South American mafia, quite literally. Last I knew, Mexico was in North America! (flame)
Gringos are so ethnocentric that they don't even know where the USA is on a world map! I'd bet that you think you are an American, and that citizens of Mexico are not Americans. There is a proper Spanish word for citizens of the USA - "estadounidense" ("estadounidenses" plural). Yanquis are so ethnocentric that there isn't even a word for it. One would have to use the phrase, "Citizen of the United States of America" to be accurate.
(end of rant)
The latest numbers being commonly quoted on the Mexican "drug war" are 26,000 killed, since late 2006 when President Calderón stepped it up. Today I read 28,000. Those stats are no doubt highly inaccurate and used for political purposes. Nevertheless, that is an astonishing toll. That's almost half way to the 58,000 estadounindenses killed in Vietnam.
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pc
climber
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If you smoke dope or consume other illegal drugs, you're part of the problem. Take personal responsibility.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Drop in the bucket compared to Vietnamese losses JM.
pc--- Buy domestic!
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pc
climber
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Ron, I certainly support local growers. Just not "that" type of grower.
cheers,
pc
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
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The only way to stop the drug cartels is to remove the monetary support. The only way to do that is to legalize everything and have our gov't sell it cheaper than the cartels could. In order to keep people from being stoned immaculate in public is to set up "stone zones" across the country where you can go and get wasted without worry of doing damage to others. Sort of like dizzyland for deadheads (actually, that was the beauty of dead concerts...).
I propose we use one of the channel islands right off our coast, the black rock desert, an island in Puget Sound, etc as these areas, make people sign liability waivers, and let concessions set up to sell whatever is needed to conduct the pursuit of happiness.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2010 - 08:14pm PT
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Last I knew, Mexico was in North America! (flame)
Gringos are so ethnocentric that they don't even know where the USA is on a world map! I'd bet that you think you are an American, and that citizens of Mexico are not Americans. There is a proper Spanish word for citizens of the USA - "estadounidense" ("estadounidenses" plural). Yanquis are so ethnocentric that there isn't even a word for it. One would have to use the phrase, "Citizen of the United States of America" to be accurate.
(end of rant)
The latest numbers being commonly quoted on the Mexican "drug war" are 26,000 killed, since late 2006 when President Calderón stepped it up. Today I read 28,000. Those stats are no doubt highly inaccurate and used for political purposes. Nevertheless, that is an astonishing toll. That's almost half way to the 58,000 estadounindenses killed in Vietnam.
Do you have point??? WTF are you saying?
And skepty's solution is legalize everything? Do you really think that'll work? They still grow and produce the coke there. By legalizing it you do what??? Just make more junkies?
Do you idiots think of consequences???? Or do you just want to have fun unrelenting, with no regard???
Fools.
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Juan Maderita
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Do you have point??? WTF are you saying? Yes bluering, I have a point. Sarcasm is wasted on the people who can't understand that Mexico is in North America, not South America.
Mexico is part of N-O-R-T-H America.
So, Mexican narcotraficantes are not "South American mafia." Clear enough?
Btw, sorry for the attitude. I should be climbing this holiday weekend. Or surfing. Anything but sitting here overlooking the fog on the beach :(
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