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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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And all the bong's belong to me!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Skip!
You remind me of the guy who, after accidentlly dropping $5 in the shitter/outhouse, wouldn't go in for that little an amount. So he pulls $20 bill out of his pocket, tosses it in and say's "But I'll go in for $25."
Except...
Sounds like you would go in for the $5...ya dirtbag!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Thanks, Jake. Much appreciated. I occasionally have to carry down other people's garbage that I find at the base of the wall, but fortunately this happens very infrequently.
Do I take it then that these guys didn't really toss very much stuff, that they were returning to pick it up, and accordingly you didn't write them a ticket?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Judging from Don's OP, the party threw off a lot of stuff, which must have taken quite an effort to clean up. I suspect that Jake's post rather understated the situation.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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If the above is true, then why no ticket? I am certainly more in favour of we climbers policing ourselves, which surely would have been the case during regular Wall Season when the base is normally crawling with wall rats. But in situations like this, at this time of year, would something like a ticket be a more effective deterrent?
Thoughts?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Catching them in the act may be the challenge. The circumstantial evidence seems strong, but you have to see them throwing stuff off, which is then found at the base, or have some way to tie what is found at the bottom to identified individuals. Plus there is the challenge of apprehending them, i.e. as they top out or on the descent, remembering that there are several ways to get back to the Valley.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Speeding tickets don't seem to have much of an effect, Pete.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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"some way to tie what is found at the bottom to identified individuals."
DNA...'poop smears' are the cheapest way to go! Suspected climbers could volunteer a sample.
or...if necessary/worse case scenario, you could pry it out of them.
"Catching them in the act may be the challenge."
Night time particularly.
Night vision scopes and swat/commando teams that could drop in at a moments notice.
Ground support crew(pooper scoopers)with full body armour(never know what those scoundrals will toss)!
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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It was me on Mescalito and I will not be taking the blame for the poop bags.
On day one of fixing, we saw two water bottles come from The Nose, which I carried out. Day two, one bottle and a poop bag, we blasted that day so I left it alone. Our 2nd or 3rd night up there our garbage bag malfunctioned and littered the base, which I was none too happy about.
That’s it. I picked up garbage on the summit and along the way, as I always do. I went back and picked up the base the same day Jake was out and came back with two packs full (we dug deep) of garbage, half of which wasn’t ours.
Take care and play safe, Ammon
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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OK, good - problem solved. Wall [and summit] both cleaner afterwards than before.
Yaaaaaar!
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mastadon
Trad climber
quaking has-been
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2010 - 09:54am PT
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Nuff said......
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Well done, Ammon, Thanks.
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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right on, a happy ending to a trashy story.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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I couldnt believe it that people who had the skills to climb Mescalito would treat the captain so poorly on purpose. Thanks Ammon for the clear up.
Kalen
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nature
climber
Whereverland....
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well that explains all those beer cans....
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Why would he want to climb it again?
I thought we did pretty good the 1st time.
Research? Hmmmm.
I dunno....Don't repeat Walls, myself. Yet.
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