JakeW
Big Wall climber
CA
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I picked up all the trash I could find along the base of El Cap today, including this stuff. It took me ever-so-slightly longer than reading this thread and writing this reply...and was much more scenic and enjoyable....
Even though these folks made an error in judgement by bumbling and dropping this stuff, I was encouraged to learn that they were staying extremely well hydrated with large numbers of our favorite malt beverages, the cans of which were interspersed with their "lunch bags".
On my way out I noticed some handsome and interesting characters heading that way, and I believe they may have been the clumsy climbers who accidentally dropped the stuff, going back to pick it up. So they might be only half guilty.
For those of us regularly picking up these curiosities, the compostable "brown" paper bags aren't nearly as intriguing as the sliced open then duct taped closed gallon jugs, with "something" inside. What do you do with these? What happens to the ones not found? Though similar in construct to a ship-in-a-bottle, they aren't very pleasing on the mantel shelf.
-Jake Whittaker
NPS Wilderness/Climbing Ranger
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mastadon
Trad climber
quaking has-been
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2010 - 03:50pm PT
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Thank you Jake. Thank you very much.
I picked up a few things but, unfortunately, I had a 110-lb demon on my back at the time.....
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Thanks, Jake.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Very tongue in cheek, Jake.
Appreciate you seein' to the Big Stone.
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Weld_it
Trad climber
Chatsworth
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Jake what is your badge numer? I'm not sure if you should get a poemotion or arristed for tampering with evedense.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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And all the bong's belong to me!
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skipt
Mountain climber
Washington
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If everyone put lets say $5 in every poop bag before they threw it off we might be on the way to a solution for our problem.
Skip
EDIT: (People might call for more than $5 but I am saying this as someone with that finest of Taco qualities...I'm a cheap bastard.)
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Skip!
You remind me of the guy who, after accidentlly dropping $5 in the shitter/outhouse, wouldn't go in for that little an amount. So he pulls $20 bill out of his pocket, tosses it in and say's "But I'll go in for $25."
Except...
Sounds like you would go in for the $5...ya dirtbag!
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skipt
Mountain climber
Washington
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Sounds like you would go in for the $5...ya dirtbag!
ROTFL!!!
Hey trip 7,
I'm thinking I could collect maybe 10 bags and earn $50 bucks.
Not bad for a couple of hours work.
That is prime dirt bag money!!!
:-)
Skip
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Mike.
climber
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Hey, listen up...yes, you, ready to hit up the Captain or some other Yo grade 6 with no intention of carrying up & out your sh#t bags:
I have a brand new, lightweight and small-ish poop tube, ready to be shipped to you, gratis. State of the art drain pipe, easy and featherweight all-plastic test plug closure with keeper, epoxied and sealed bottom cap, clip-in webbing attached. Contains stench like a motherf*#ker. All you have to do is use it and it's yours. I'll throw in an unused Wag Bag if you've never had the pleasure and want to try one. No joke.
Don't use the SuperTopo email notification; it never reaches me. Shoot me an email at ouscre at hot mail daught calm and we'll work it out. Thanks.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jake,
Did you tool them, I would have.
The evil one
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Thanks, Jake. Much appreciated. I occasionally have to carry down other people's garbage that I find at the base of the wall, but fortunately this happens very infrequently.
Do I take it then that these guys didn't really toss very much stuff, that they were returning to pick it up, and accordingly you didn't write them a ticket?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Judging from Don's OP, the party threw off a lot of stuff, which must have taken quite an effort to clean up. I suspect that Jake's post rather understated the situation.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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If the above is true, then why no ticket? I am certainly more in favour of we climbers policing ourselves, which surely would have been the case during regular Wall Season when the base is normally crawling with wall rats. But in situations like this, at this time of year, would something like a ticket be a more effective deterrent?
Thoughts?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Catching them in the act may be the challenge. The circumstantial evidence seems strong, but you have to see them throwing stuff off, which is then found at the base, or have some way to tie what is found at the bottom to identified individuals. Plus there is the challenge of apprehending them, i.e. as they top out or on the descent, remembering that there are several ways to get back to the Valley.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Speeding tickets don't seem to have much of an effect, Pete.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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"some way to tie what is found at the bottom to identified individuals."
DNA...'poop smears' are the cheapest way to go! Suspected climbers could volunteer a sample.
or...if necessary/worse case scenario, you could pry it out of them.
"Catching them in the act may be the challenge."
Night time particularly.
Night vision scopes and swat/commando teams that could drop in at a moments notice.
Ground support crew(pooper scoopers)with full body armour(never know what those scoundrals will toss)!
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
California
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It was me on Mescalito and I will not be taking the blame for the poop bags.
On day one of fixing, we saw two water bottles come from The Nose, which I carried out. Day two, one bottle and a poop bag, we blasted that day so I left it alone. Our 2nd or 3rd night up there our garbage bag malfunctioned and littered the base, which I was none too happy about.
That’s it. I picked up garbage on the summit and along the way, as I always do. I went back and picked up the base the same day Jake was out and came back with two packs full (we dug deep) of garbage, half of which wasn’t ours.
Take care and play safe, Ammon
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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OK, good - problem solved. Wall [and summit] both cleaner afterwards than before.
Yaaaaaar!
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mastadon
Trad climber
quaking has-been
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2010 - 06:54am PT
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Nuff said......
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