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Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Dec 2, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
Heyas gang.

I haven't posted on here in a while, but after reading back a bit I have seen a lot of talk lately about the good and bad in AA.

I was sober for about 2 years before I went to an AA meeting. It was a good thing that I did, because I was on the edge of picking up again. I spent the next few years in AA, and contribute that as an important part of my sobriety.

Keep in mind that my personal journey through AA was different then most; I didn't follow the "canon" to a T but took what I could use and set aside the rest. Everyone has the right to work their own program, and I had serious issues with the religious part of AA and never got into that. There was also a lot of hypocrisy and "us versus them" mentality in a lot of the rooms that I went to, and a huge amount of drama which is anathema to me. In the end, I couldn't find a room that didn't have these elements, and I set the meeting aspect of AA aside and continued my program with the added tools that I found in the rooms. It's continued to work for me for over 14 years now.

One thing that people should realize is that when AA was formed, religion was still a driving overall force in society. Nearly everyone went to church then and religion was taken as a social standard. Being as the books hold true to the original works, it will probably always be a part of AA. That doesn't mean that you have to accept that part - I have seen the religious aspect scare off a lot of people who truly need the help that AA can provide.

There has been mention here that "5 to 10% of people in AA succeed" but remember this - if there was no AA, that success would be 0% for some people.

It IS possible to attend AA, work the steps, and get sober without becoming religious or becoming a "book beater." So you shouldn't let that stop you from at least giving it a try. Like me, you can decide to attempt to work the program using what works for you and leaving aside what you can't come to terms with. But you need to accept the fact that your recovery may be harder, and you may not succeed the first few times.

The truth is that if you go to AA, and follow every single line, you will stay sober. You may only be a dry drunk, but you will be sober and can hopefully "fake it until you make it."

I am coming up on a trip which is probably going to stress some very deep and very emotional triggers for me. I am going back to my home town for the first time in over 10 years, and will be dealing with family and friends of my family that I haven't spoken to since I was a kid. I will have to deal with discussing the rift with my father, whom I have not spoken to in 20 years. All of these things are troubling to me, and I know that even with the time I have, I am going to have to be on "high alert." Even in longer term sobriety, you must never let your guard down.

The holiday season can be one of the toughest for those of us who are alcoholic. Stay strong, keep your phone close with a friend you can talk to, and take it one day at a time. Or a minute at a time. Or a second at a time. Strength and positive thoughts to you all.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Old West Crackramento
Dec 13, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
Hey, thanks for the rec, I'll have to check it out.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 13, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
Hoh man, what a powerful movie!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Old West Crackramento
Dec 13, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
Damn! Paused halfway through for now, but those Hemmingways are f*#king crazy!
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
Dec 26, 2014 - 11:54am PT
Holydaze bump
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 5, 2015 - 11:09pm PT
Whiskey. Todilhil, the Navajos had a named it. Water of Darkness if you translated that word into bilingaana language. But Navajos sometimes mispronounced it. Todilhaal, they'd say. Making it mean "sucking in darkness," and enjoying the wry irony of the pun. Death slept in the bottle, only waiting to be released.
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Jan 8, 2015 - 05:30pm PT
just checking in, seems there is a need
treez

Trad climber
99827
Jan 25, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
6 months today. no bullshit for real.

Not ever even tempted.

I feel like I have half as much work to do and lots more money, but the best part of all is in my head. Free and clear these days.

I offer my posting history as proof ;).

I've always watched this thread because I always knew.

Thanks for all the insights.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Old West Crackramento
Jan 25, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
Awesome, brother! Keep up the good work. It's not always easy, but it's always worth it.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 25, 2015 - 09:17pm PT
Nice work, Treez!
treez

Trad climber
99827
Jan 25, 2015 - 10:43pm PT
Thanks!

It's nice because whatever I'm going through, I know it could be worse if I

wasn't sober. I'm pretty sure I would be in jail right now facing a life

without my son. I'm able to disallow the pushing of my buttons and walk

away. Great freedom.

Looks like I may be backsliding on supertopo oversharing though :)

later!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jan 25, 2015 - 11:01pm PT
way to beez treez!
John M

climber
Jan 25, 2015 - 11:01pm PT
I'm glad that you are keeping your head on straight Treez.. Thats great news. Good on you mate.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 26, 2015 - 12:53am PT
good work!

here is your 6 month chip,

the miracle is not that i do not drink, but that i have no desire to drink,

the message is hope, the promise is freedom,

and you don't have to climb with a hangover,

Credit: Dr.Sprock
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 26, 2015 - 02:34am PT
1 year in about 2 1/2 weeks. My god what an epic 6 or 7 years it's been. Truly should be dead, or in prison.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jan 26, 2015 - 11:27am PT
Way to go, bvb - proud of you!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 26, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
Way to go American legend
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 26, 2015 - 12:21pm PT
My god what an epic 6 or 7 years it's been. Truly should be dead, or in prison.

Need more details.....
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Jan 26, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
Congratulations on the six month mark Treez. As well to you, BVB, in your path.

I've been doing well, no thoughts of drinking or smoking, despite seeing plenty of it on a regular basis. I just got too good a deal when I signed on the dotted line. I hope I never forget that even for a second, because that's all it takes - one second of forgetting my commitment to sobriety - for it to all be over.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 27, 2015 - 12:08am PT
it is my honor and privilege to present bvb with his one year chip,




Credit: Dr.Sprock

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