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Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 7, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
Two years on Dec 30th for me.

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 7, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
good deal Mark!

ever been to Tumwater Gorge? leavenworth area

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 7, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
BVB. if you can get past the 2 year mark it gets really easy. The longer you go the less physical symptoms you get.

Jan 8, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but does anyone have any thoughts about Alanon?

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 8, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
Alanon groups vary radically. Some are healthy, and focus on healing from whatever havoc booze has wreaked in their lives. Some, however, are composed almost entirely of incredibly bitter ex-spouses who are looking for a forum in which to vent, endlessly, year after year. Addicted to the thrill of bitterness.

Jan 8, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Thanks. I guess the key is to try a few and hopefully find one that is constructive?

Trad climber
New Durham, NH
Jan 8, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
They are out there, dirtbag, and my wife finds her group very beneficial. I haven't personally been to an AA meeting in just over a year, but my wife continues with her alanon group almost every week.

Jan 8, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
Thanks--thinking about trying it tonight.

Trad climber
Jan 8, 2013 - 06:49pm PT
Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but does anyone have any thoughts about Alanon?

I'll put in a good word for AlAnon!

Before I got sober, one day my mom called me. She herslef had slipped after a decent time not drinking, and didn't know what to do because she knew she had it bad, that she couldn't put it down without a rehab, and that she didn't think Medicaid would pay for a rehab....

I mentioned this to my boss at work and she said "You should look into AlAnon." She then explained it a bit(although I already knew what it was), got on the phone and got info on some meetings for that night. Because my boss frightened me a little - well, a lot, I went to the meeting rather than have to deal with her if I didn't do as she said(this is an interesting connection, which will be seen later...)

The meeting was GREAT! This sophisticated Upper East Side lady, talking about her relationship with alcoholsim, down and dirty. And it HELPED!

IMMEDIATELY I knew what I had to do.... NO, not about my mother. About the dysfunctional relationship I had with my boss!

That's a long story, but the next time my boss asked me to do this task which was completely unrelated to work, and one which she had manipulated me into doing and which I KNEW was unhealthy.... I simply said "Esta, I ca no longer do this for you." Simple as THAT!

Well...her mouth dropped. But there it was. And she never asked me to do it again. Of course, she was a bitch on wheels after that and I did get fired about two weeks later...hahah. But AlAnon WORKED! I saw - clearly - my part in the dysfunctional relationship, owned it, and stopped.

AlAnon can be a very powerful program.

On the other AA we do often refer to it as "AlAnonAndOn." (because if anyone thinks AA'ers whine and go on, they haven't been to an AlAnon meeting....)

The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Jan 8, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Way to go Mark.
Continuing to inspire on and off the rock.

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 8, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
Having just spend over a month in the hospital, I can say for certain that no matter what happened, I always had my program to come back to.


The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Jan 8, 2013 - 08:28pm PT

Glad you survived.
This thread and your posts are an important part of my program!
Thanks again to Hankster for starting this and for all who contribute.


Jan 8, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
Thanks Happie.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 9, 2013 - 06:28am PT
I'd second that about the two year mark. That's about how long it took me to not think about it anymore. Now I never do, and have no idea how many years its been. I know for some people it never goes away. Thank God I put a stop to it before I got that addicted.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 9, 2013 - 09:09am PT
I sort of feel bad for even posting since not drinking has been pretty much a non issue for me. I'll be having a bad day and will tell myself that I'm going to have a beer but when I drive past the grocery store I just laugh. My technique of just worrying about that first, single drink, has been good for me. I actually go days now and not even think about it.

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane ~:~
Jan 9, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
bvb - If you can get by the two year mark it gets really easy.
I tend to agree with that, in general/the more time the easier it seems to get.

But WOE, I had a close call tonight at Albertson's (grocery store). There is a bargain (hard for me to pass up bargains): Jim Beam 8.99 (750 ml.) when you buy 6 (regularly 12.84). Everything kinda hit me at once. First thing I thought was, "Hey, just a shot or two (or one whiskey & coke) after dinner each night, they would last me 6-12 months." ... Yea, sure!

It was a really close call, I was calculating the savings and was starting to drool. YIKES!!

I thought about this thread, and all the peeps I have known over the years that weren't as lucky as I that are nolonger with us (i think i told my story on this thread).

I have been sober for going on 30 years, but man, I felt the pull earlier this evening!!!

edit: if you get the Albertson's add (this weeks add) it is rght there in it; JB or Malibu Carribean Rum (i was thinking about getting 3 of each/it is gonna be a tuff week , since i live directly across the street from Albertson's).

I usually avoid that isle like the plague (licquor isle)...don't trust myself.

edit: Happie - "Congrats..." -- Thanks! And I hear ya (in regards to all those, "coming up on 90 day's"/battling the urge, etc!) my thoughts, hopes and prayers are with you, brothers & sister's!!

yea, i have had a few set backs over the years. it has been a long 30+ years. i cud easily get myself into big trouble once again. i think earlier this evening at Albertsons was a warning ( or something). not only booze, but anything else that might just happen along. i shud probably connect with something like AA or some kind of support group. thanks for the suggestion/hint Happie! :)

Trad climber
Jan 9, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
Oh man - I can almost see that as one of those cartoons in the AA Grapevine magazine. "Our man" stopped in his tracks at the huge display of "Buy SIX and SAVE!" The sweat is flying off his face as he contemplates...

And then the grocery clerk comes by to restock, and says "This stuff has been flying out the door since we put it on sale, but I have to tell you, it's been tough for me, coming up on 90 days sober and restocking this display several times a day. I get off work in 10 minutes and I am heading straight to a meeting!"

"Can I come with you?" says....

Congratulations on passing up that "bargain" - and next time you go in, keep an eye out for that guy coming up on 90 days.

Trad climber
Jan 10, 2013 - 08:00am PT
thanks for the suggestion/hint Happie! :)

Wasn't any suggestion of that kind - Just conjured the cartoon thing in my mind when reading your post, and after I had written it I thought"Well, I know that next time I am looking at a big liquor display and waxing poetic, some shaking-footed AA colt or filly is probably going to show up in the image to save me from myself!

Mountain climber
Northern surly
Jan 10, 2013 - 10:46am PT
I've been on the wagon for a while now and I'm no fan of sobriety, can't really say I've hurt anyone with my drinking or have a need for amends, just don't like what it does to my waist line, and being hung over sucks.

Never lost a day of work, or any of that crap, just feel like I don't want to drink anymore.

I really don't believe I need a higher power, or imaginary friend to take control of my life, and I find AA people, unrelenting coffee drinkers and smokers, and always going on about how cool they are, or stewing on all the stupid things they did while drinking. MOSTLY JOKING LOL!!

But seriously, in all respect to those of you on this inspiring thread, what is the best way to stop drinking, do it on your own, I can and have stopped many times for many months or go to AA.

Looking for advice from climbers and friends on this thread....


Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 10, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Coz, if you really Want to stop you can do it on your own. I drank pretty much every day for 30 years and managed to quit on my own. Recognize your trigger points of when you really want or need a beer and have ice cold Polar seltzer ready to go. calorie free, no sodium or any other crap but it is a fizzy cold drink in your hand that gets you past that hard moment..
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