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Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2009 - 03:53pm PT
I have nothing but fondness for Catholics, they are fellow Brothers and Sisters in Christ, although I do not agree 100% with Catholic doctrine, we agree on much . . . having said that . . .


This is a very interesting article that talks about why UFOs/Aliens/ETs/EBEs are not to be trusted and what are they really . . .

UFOs: Part of the Great End-Times Deception…
http://www.tldm.org/News13/US-OfficialDisclosureUfosImminent.htm
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Nov 22, 2009 - 04:10pm PT
klimmer - The post I just reviewed the top of pretty much puts you in a class all yourself....


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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2009 - 12:22pm PT
WBruan,

Yes, I suppose I do ask for it at times. I know these issues are contraversial. Life is contraversial. Seeking the truth of the matter is always contraversial. Perhaps I should just plug in and turn off just like the rest of the World? . . .

Nope. Not gonna happen. Life is too short.




Any who, here is some real "meat" for those of you who want to know the truth:

Any secret government entity willing to do the following to hide the truth of the matter is beyond evil and doing as the Father of all lies (Lucifer)would want them to do. That can not be good. Complete and Full Disclosure has not happened yet because the lies and deceit are incredibly wrong and evil. They do not want anyone to know how involved they really are. A relationship and agreements with Aliens/ETs/EBEs is a relationship with the Devil himself. Evil is as evil does.




About Disclosure . . .


I keep going back and forth on this. It does seem like disclosure might be close at hand, because of statements by . . .

John Podesta UFO Disclosure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Sz-MgoFos&feature=player_embedded

The Disclosure Project
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218#

Official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is imminent
October 21, 12:27 AMHonolulu Exopolitics ExaminerMichael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent

And the fact that President Obama spent 2 full days at Nellis Airforce base in Nevada, which is also the infamous home of Area 51, Groom Lake, S-4, Papoose Lake. What did he do there for 2 days besides giving a short speech?

President Obama Speaks at Nellis Air Force Base on Energy Policy
CQ Transcripts Wire
Wednesday, May 27, 2009; 3:40 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/27/AR2009052702379.html

And the Catholic Church and the Pope is coming forward and asking questions and saying it is ok to believe in Aliens and even sponsoring studies and meetings looking into it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6536400/The-Vatican-joins-the-search-for-alien-life.html

http://news.aol.com/article/vatican-weighs-possibility-implications/761942?icid=main|main|dl1|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fvatican-weighs-possibility-implications%2F761942


It could be that disclosure is upon us. But then I run into the deep, dark secret stories about what is really going on, and I think how can they let the cat out of the bag with all the massive cover-up they have been doing since 1947 (at least)? And all the high crimes, murders, assissinations that go along with the massive cover-up? How can they allow the treason that they have been performing for so long and abussing the World with, how can they possibly let it out and be known? The UFO secret and their in-bed relationship with them (a relationship with Lucifer himself, whether they know it or not) and secret agreements and the the technology they have acquired, and back-engineered to essentially dominate the World with, how can they possibly allow all of these secrets to come out? The moment they admit to UFOs/ETs, is also the moment they will expose the entire massive cover-up. No one will believe that they have been hiding all of this to protect the World and that they were just following the guidelines laid down by the Brookings Report: http://www.darkmission.net/fear.htm



Here are a long series of video clips all in order to watch.


The truth of what has been happening behind closed doors and with a secret unlawful Cabal at the highest levels of our government, that does not answer to the President or to Congress, and that continues to operate perpetually from one administration to another is unbelievable scary, evil, and Satanic. They are in bed and controlled by the NWO rich, powerful, elite of the World. How can they let this be fully discovered and disclosed?



Testimony of CIA assassin recruited from Navy SEALs goes online with documents
July 16, 9:19 AMHonolulu Exopolitics ExaminerMichael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m7d16-Testimony-of-CIA-assassin-recruited-from-Navy-SEALs-goes-online-with-documents

S4 Informers Volume One
The long-awaited release of the 1991 "Connor O'Ryan" testimony. Featuring Wendelle C. Stevens, Robert O. Dean, Gem Cox and many others. We let you know it all...
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CD7424712D84DEE3

UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (01 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=holCY20CtNA&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (02 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77GbetmJF1E&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (03 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9WKDYWLp4&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (04 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNCPDj5U4b4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNCPDj5U4b4&feature=player_embedded#t=196
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (05 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAa60qcuIfU&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (06 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcL0rjX7VVA&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (07 of 12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gsGVLzcneM&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (08 of 12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3MSCFMiMA&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (09 of 12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0vD6AldwIA&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (10 of 12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw89u5UCTC4&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (11 of 12) august edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0NNblmFSY&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume One (12 of 12) august edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Ld5NalUPk&feature=related


S4 Informers Volume Two
S4 Informers Volume Two. Takes up where the first volume leaves off. Things just get more and more interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=03AB12ACB6CB22B9&search_query=s4+informers+volume+two

UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (01 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7tiIB8eC1s&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (02 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws2KABICBgE&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (03 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbnTt3LbsAc&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (04 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JRFSNNlLFI&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (05 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO4mfrui1Ik&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (06 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSEHaobNDOQ&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (07 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJiD_iU0410&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (08 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN1G5aTavX8&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (09 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUjK0kEEWQ&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (10 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mnoqV-DuaE&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (11 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdTSqriwrI&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Two (12 of 12) final cut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biP7z-xYs18&feature=related

S4 Informers Volume Three
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=55324C71E40F58A5&search_query=s4+informers+volume+three

UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (01 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ0-GQEUSKM&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (02 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-3xC850SPI&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (03 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496JyiYCLco&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (04 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1y5vT9ptYE&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (05 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJuVP4opC8&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (06 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czjscDXjkU4&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (07 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iDGjuvw00M&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (08 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ8z2OlGPtE&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (09 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9H7X6hiu4&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (10 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpJ9wPXIfzU&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (11 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0n1GLvfMrY&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (12 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnJQXswHLp8&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (13 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9Lu-MS3co&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (14 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtltZGqTlaU&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (15 of 17 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGeQt4zbvw&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (16 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgGys30XZg&feature=related
UFO Hypotheses - S4 Informers Volume Three (17 of 17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2mgjLet0Tw&feature=related

Testimony of CIA assassin recruited from Navy SEALs goes online with documents
July 16, 9:19 AMHonolulu Exopolitics ExaminerMichael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m7d16-Testimony-of-CIA-assassin-recruited-from-Navy-SEALs-goes-online-with-documents

Slide show of Evidence regarding CIA assassin/S4 Area 51 sentry:
http://www.examiner.com/ExaminerSlideshow.html?entryID=402157

UFO Hypotheses Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/ufohypotheses





President Kennedy’s UFO involvement led to assassination order
June 15, 7:02 AMHonolulu Exopolitics ExaminerMichael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d15-President-Kennedys-UFO-involvement-led-to-assassination-order

Bill O'Reilly Reports On CIA Connection to JFK Assassination (this must have been when O'Reilly had a Soul and wasn't such a tool for the radical right)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdS-1dcVxw&feature=player_embedded

The Majestic Documents:
http://majesticdocuments.com/documents/1960-1969.php#burnedmemo
http://majesticdocuments.com/index.php

JFK MJ-12
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6404101/JFK-MJ12

Part I. Was President Kennedy given ET UFO message about Cuba?
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d20-Was-President-Kennedy-given-extraterrestrial-message-about-Cuban-Missile-Crisis

Part II. Did President Kennedy meet extraterrestrials?
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d21-Did-President-Kennedy-meet-extraterrestrials

Part III. Kennedy linked US-USSR space missions with classified UFO files
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d27-President-Kennedy-linked-joint-lunar-missions-with-classified-UFO-files

Part IV - Kennedy assassination linked to UFOs and CIA
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d9-Kennedy-assassination-linked-to-UFOs-and-CIA

Part V - CIA Director issued secret directive denying President Kennedy access to UFO files
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d12-CIA-Director-issued-secret-directive-preventing-President-Kennedy-access-to-UFO-files



I realize that is a lot of homework to do and watch, but if you are at all interested in knowing the truth, it is out there as they say.

I have fixed most of the links, a few more are needing fixing. I'm on it. Some links are just too long. Cut and paste them into the browser to view them."






Full Blown Wack-a-loon!!
(eyes wide open)


Holly cow.. that's extreme...

Try some soothing tea or something...

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2009 - 08:42pm PT
Rokjox,

I enjoy the ST forum. We can talk about many things here and sometimes even climbing!

I have to admit that I like Chris Mac's format here on the "Taco" very much. The thing is, what we say is archived and searchable, that is really a great resource. Also truth be known, I do send others here to browse and read, so I'm not just speaking to fellow Supertopians only.

About Apollo 20 and the "Mona Lisa" EBE. I do not know what to think honestly. It is an incredible story, but is it true? I do not know. Did they really find the EBE and bring her back? I do not know. Could it be faked? Yes.

What I do know is that there is a huge anomally on the backside of the Moon that is within many official NASA Apollo images, that is about 2.44 miles long and about .44 miles wide and tall. I have analyized using Google Moon and have located the anomolly location precisely and have taken measurements, but wouldn't you know it is is heavily pixelated and really poor resolution.

What I would like to see happen is NASA's hand forced to release the LRO images in high resolution of this anomally, just as they have for all the Apollo landing sites. The imagery is so good we can see the footprint tracks from the astronauts. One high resolution official NASA image of this entire anomally from the LRO with no airbrushing, pixelating or any other digital erasing technique is all it would take, and game over. We would all know in an instant. This must happen, the sooner the better.

Later I will post the images from my Google Moon session and show what I have learned . . . going to a party and dinner now, I'll post later . . .


Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2009 - 12:03am PT
I will describe these images and analysis soon, now I'm just posting them . . .







Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 23, 2009 - 12:10am PT
Forget about the "Illuminati". It's the klimmerati that I worry about.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2009 - 12:42pm PT
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Hope it is a great day with cheer, family, and good food. Don't forget to do something fun like climb, skate, ski, surf, jump off cliffs with a parachute, fly thermals whatever . . . just don't eat too much ;-))


Rokjox,

Glad to see you're wading through all those videos. Very eye opening for sure and it really shows how far our government is willing to go to hide the truth. Scary stuff. Yea, the evil one Cheney, has been to S-4 and has been seen looking at the crafts and the EBEs (when he was Secretary of Defense), apparently photos were taken of him secretly doing so. That is what they were after is getting all this photo evidence back that was smuggled out by this S-4 Sentry/Assassin. Multiple copy sets were made and hidden. Assissins going after one of there own. Incredible really and scary stuff. Isn't our government soooo warm and benevolent? They are as warm and benevolent as an ice-pick sticking out of the forehead of an innocent lamb, in a deep freezer.



Here is one of the best UFO videos ever made in my opinion, narrated by Peter Coyote (really good). Enjoy!:

Out of the Blue
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5545276251937701731#
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2009 - 12:27am PT
EBE disclosure just happened November, 2009, but no one was paying much attention! You had to know they would slip it in disguised and uneventful like this. Well, its one way of doing things I suppose. No, "War Of The Worlds" mass hysteria . . .

The meteoritics world was paying attention, and the meteorite world is all abuzz again about the possible fossilized evidence of microbial life within the carbonates of the Mars meteorite ALH84001.

The famous Mars meteorite ALH84001 is back in the news, and maybe it really does have the bio-signatures of fossilized extremophile cryptoendolithic microbial life after all in the form of Magentite nanocrystals.

They have invalidated the abiotic methods of the origins of the magnetite nanocrystals in Martian meteorite ALH84001, leaving other methods of their origin such as biogenesis intact.


Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets of possible life
BY CRAIG COVAULT
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: November 24, 2009
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0911/24marslife/

"The document is part of the November issue of the respected journal Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, the journal of the Geochemical and Meteoritic Society.
Its authors are Kathie Thomas-Keprta, Simon Clement, David McKay (who led the original team), Everett Gibson and Susan Wentworth, all of the Johnson Space Center. Keprta is the principal author.
Although led by a Johnson Space Center team, the additional evidence for Martian life in the Allen Hills meteorite has been an open topic for the last several weeks in astrobiology division halls at the NASA Ames Research Center near San Francisco and at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena. It's hot news.
The new work centers on so-called magnetic bacteria that on Earth, and apparently Mars as well, leave distinctively-shaped remnants in the rock. In addition the features test with a high chemical purity more like a biological feature than geological.
These are just like the magnetite-related life forms found in the meteorite believed to represent Martian life forms, says Dr. Dennis Bazylinski, who peer reviewed the new findings. He also studies such Earth life forms in his laboratory at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas.
"I think the paper is really excellent. I have no trouble with the paper," Bazylinski told Spaceflight Now.
"I work on magnetic bacteria, and one indication there was life on ancient Mars are these particular magnetite crystals in the meteorite that look like they came out of magnetic bacteria. At first [when the data was reported in 1996], I thought there might have been an error. I have no doubt about that now. I know there is no error," Bazylinski stressed.
"The big question is can these things [magnetite crystals] be reliable magneto fossils, and that is a matter of debate.
"But it turns out that the magnetic bacteria make some very unique shapes of magnetite crystals. And one of the organisms we work with on Earth makes particles that look virtually identical to what we see from Mars in the meteorite."


For the original 47 page research paper see:
http://www.geochemsoc.org/publications/gcajournal/

Origins of magnetite nanocrystals in Martian meteorite
ALH84001
K.L. Thomas-Keprta a,*, S.J. Clemett a,*, D.S. McKay b, E.K. Gibson b,
S.J. Wentworth a
aESCG at NASA/Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX 77058, USA
b KR, ARES, NASA/Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX 77058, USA
Received 20 July 2008; accepted in revised form 18 May 2009; available online 16 June 2009, published in gca journal November 24, 2009


From the actual research article:

"Abstract
The Martian meteorite ALH84001 preserves evidence of interaction with aqueous fluids while on Mars in the form of
microscopic carbonate disks. These carbonate disks are believed to have precipitated 3.9 Ga ago at beginning of the Noachian
epoch on Mars during which both the oldest extant Martian surfaces were formed, and perhaps the earliest global oceans.
Intimately associated within and throughout these carbonate disks are nanocrystal magnetites (Fe3O4) with unusual chemical
and physical properties, whose origins have become the source of considerable debate. One group of hypotheses argues that
these magnetites are the product of partial thermal decomposition of the host carbonate. Alternatively, the origins of magnetite
and carbonate may be unrelated; that is, from the perspective of the carbonate the magnetite is allochthonous. For
example, the magnetites might have already been present in the aqueous fluids from which the carbonates were believed to
have been deposited. We have sought to resolve between these hypotheses through the detailed characterization of the compositional
and structural relationships of the carbonate disks and associated magnetites with the orthopyroxene matrix in
which they are embedded. Extensive use of focused ion beam milling techniques has been utilized for sample preparation.
We then compared our observations with those from experimental thermal decomposition studies of sideritic carbonates
under a range of plausible geological heating scenarios. We conclude that the vast majority of the nanocrystal magnetites present
in the carbonate disks could not have formed by any of the currently proposed thermal decomposition scenarios. Instead,
we find there is considerable evidence in support of an alternative allochthonous origin for the magnetite unrelated to any
shock or thermal processing of the carbonates.
 2009 Published by Elsevier Ltd."



"5. SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
Two heating scenarios described herein provide the geological
context for the decomposition models developed
independently by Brearley (2003) and Treiman (2003).
These models are contradictory; that is, they cannot both
have occurred since application of one model negates the
applicability of the other. The first is based on carbonate
decomposition occurring under “extreme disequilibrium
conditions” in which “kinetics are the dominant controlling
factor” determining the chemical and physical nature of the
magnetites that are formed. Although never explicitly addressed,
this model is most consistent with the impact event
that ejected ALH84001 from Mars. In the second model,
carbonate decomposition occurs “at some depth beneath
the Martian surface where the pressure was greater than
the atmospheric pressure and the temperature declined
slowly.” However, based on kinetic and thermodynamic
arguments, both models proposed for the high temperature,
inorganic formation of ALH84001 magnetite would not
have produced the results observed in ALH84001 carbonate
disks. ALH84001 carbonate assemblages can be best explained
as the result of low temperature, disequilibrium precipitation
from a single fluid with variable composition or from
multiple fluids. Nanophase magnetite and Fe-sulfides were
suspended in fluids that formed the disk cores and rims.
After deposition ALH84001 carbonate disks were exposed
to multiple fluids containing amorphous silica, additional
nanophase magnetite, and S- and Fe-rich phases, some of
which were deposited in veins. While the majority of
ALH84001 magnetites were deposited in silica enriched
rims and veins, some are also distributed throughout the
cores and within the magnesite bands. Most magnetites
are chemically pure, although a few contain minor Al/Cr.
Their presence is inconsistent with formation by thermal
decomposition of their host carbonate. We suggest that
the majority of ALH84001 magnetites has an allochthonous
origin and was added to the carbonate system from
an outside source. This origin does not exclude the possibility
that a fraction is consistent with formation by biogenic
processes, as proposed in previous studies."




**"Most magnetites are chemically pure, although a few contain minor Al/Cr. Their presence is inconsistent with formation by thermal decomposition of their host carbonate. We suggest that the majority of ALH84001 magnetites has an allochthonous origin and was added to the carbonate system from
an outside source. This origin does not exclude the possibility that a fraction is consistent with formation by biogenic processes, as proposed in previous studies."**

Well, there you have it. So how does it feel?

We have known for a long time (since 1976 Viking Mission when we first detected the metabolism of life within the Mars soil, although many will say that experiment was inconclusive) that life existed on Mars at least at some point in its geologic past, if not currently. Too many positive signs pointing to life's probablity on Mars for it not too be so.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2009 - 04:27am PT
Great program on Area 51 (and more) by the History Channel, one of the best!

UFO Hunters - Area 51 Revealed 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGOopaxooWs
2/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77KWqdQRIBI&feature=related
3/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRmUfkupQQY&feature=related
4/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmqmpz26Xdg&feature=related
5/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvALSDxJfww&feature=related


Enjoy!


My family and I have driven the Extraterrestrial Highway 375 and up to the Area 51 gate out of and near Rachel, NV. Got within 100' of the gate took pictures and then turned around. Security everywhere on the hillsides, "the Camo Dudes." Very bizarre.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 10:12pm PT
Great article on the famous ALH84001 Mars meteorite, with interview! Really Good!

Does the Allen Hills Meteorite from Mars
Contain Fossilized Microbial Life?
© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe
12/24/09

“The Allen Hills Martian meteorite suggests there is evidence
for life on ancient Mars. If that is true ... there could still be life –
particularly in the subsurface regions of Mars”
 Kathie Thomas-Keptra, Ph.D., NASA Johnson Space Center

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1653&category=Science
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 10:57pm PT
Why Has U. K. Ministry of Defence Shut Down UFO Office?
© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe
12/20/09

“There are objects in our atmosphere which are technically
miles in advance of anything that we can deploy, that we have no means
of stopping them coming here, and that we have no defense against them,
should they be hostile.” - Lord and Admiral Peter John Hill-Norton,
former U. K. Chief of Defense Staff and Chmn., NATO Military Comm.,
2000 TV interview before his death in 2004


http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1651&category=Environment
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 11:04pm PT
Considering all that we now know regarding Mars:

In 1976 possible metabolic processes of microbial life was detected, H2O ice found (plentiful), plenty of elluvial surface erosion detected across all the surface of Mars, minerals and sedimentary rocks (such as Jarosite) are found that only form in hydrologic environments, evidence of a once massive ocean covering a very large portion of the surface of Mars at one time in Mar's geologic past, massive glacial ice underground even near the equator are detected, water droplets on the Phoenix lander legs detected, sometimes balmy temperatures in the 70s(F) are detected at the mid-latitudes and equator region in the summer, seasonal release of Methane is detected in Mars atmosphere, there are often clear blue skies (unlike the red/orange haze that NASA shows), and very likely biogenetic magnetite nanocrystals are detected and now seem confirmed in the famous Mars meteorite ALH84001 (the original study now seems to be vindicated).

I would say we have indeed found life on Mars. No doubt in Mars past, but the evidence is stacking up that it is there right now. The seasonal release of Methane into Mars atmosphere seems to say so, and the 1976 contraversial experiment will probably be vindicated.

This very important study is now on-line free of charge:

Origins of magnetite nanocrystals in Martian meteorite ALH84001 (corrected report)
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/403099main_GCA_2009_final_corrected.pdf


And this is an excellent companion article and interview:

Does the Allen Hills Meteorite from Mars Contain Fossilized Microbial Life? © 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1653&category=Science





Earth-based bacteria called magnetotactic, or MV-1. The magnetite nanocrystals work like tiny compasses sensitive to the Earth's magnetic field allowing the microbial life form to sense direction when affected by these magnetic field–lines.









I would say that disclosure has happened. And just as they wanted it to happen. Nice and quite. Let the idea seep in to everyone's sub-consciousness over a long period of time and voila! no mass hesteria. No War of the Worlds. Just calm and understated as can be:

"Yea, there's microbial life on Mars. No big deal. No big whoop. We've known about it at least since 1976."


The announcement of the Brookings Institute study in the NY Times, December 15, 1960 (this report inspired a famous scene in the movie: Space Odessey 2001) . . .





Balmy blue skies with "normal colors." "Normal colors" on the color wheels, and the US flag also looks "normal" during the Viking Mission. Where were all the weird NASA red/orange induced hazy skies then?

ebneila

climber
Jacksonville, FL
Oct 14, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
Extraterrestrials (ETs) are very real. One has only to look at this planet to realize the life force is one of the most tenacious and mis-understood phenomenon known to man. The life force is NOT limited to carbon based forms of physiology nor is it limited to the boundries of Earth. There are extremely advanced civilizations that have evolved over billions of years, some older than our planet. The universe is teeming with all manner of life forms humans can barely imagine. Being truly alien in relation to Earthly environs, many entities have evolved under conditions that make them un-recognizable to humans as life forms. Because many process information in entirely different ways than humans, humans may not understand their intent or motivations for thousands -- if not millions of years from today. Humans have lulled themselves into believing they are the most evolved species in the universe -- but nothing could be farther from the truth. The next time you ask; why don't aliens come to Earth openly? Why would they? Try explaining who you are and human history to an ant. I Think you get the picture
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