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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:09am PT
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Well, at least Hillary didn't grab anyone by the pussy.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:13am PT
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Do people actually read Riley's drunken rants?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:15am PT
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Does anyone read any of this crap?
Everyone is talking, no one is listening.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:19am PT
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RIley must be constantly drunk.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:25am PT
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Skully! Re your question, I do my best to read all the shorter posts & the significant ones from sane folks. I skip through the long posts from the ST crazies.
However! Per the below link from 538.com, it looks a lot like the Crazed, Arrogant, Misogynist is not going to be President, although he will easily win Idaho.
A comeback from the hole Trump has dug for himself would be unprecidented, since the advent of modern polls in the 1950's.
Whew!
Vote anyway! Other races matter!
Is There Any Precedent For A Trump Comeback?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-there-any-precedent-for-a-trump-comeback/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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"Does anyone read any of this crap?"
Yes, but pretty much skim past the ranting walls of text from seemingly intoxicated or otherwise obsessive behaviors.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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I'm a total believer that it is the only way to handle a large population
So many people can not work for a thousand reasons; disabilities, mental health, too fat, too lazy, on death's bed, too young, too old. etc. etc.
what are we going to do with these people?
let them starve? let them spread disease?
there are no jobs for them
they live under bridges, in tents with children
Why can't America as the richest Nation on Earth take care of it's citizens?
Australia does it, Britain does it
we should have the collective empathy to take care of our brothers in need through tax money paying for a place to live, food and a small income
you want more than barely making it on the Gov. dole, go get a job and rake it in
Because Darwin. Check him out.
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apogee
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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Are you voting for Trump, TGT?
Got the balls to come out and say it?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:28am PT
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Also, Bill Clinton is clearly a womanizer and his and Hillary's relationship has likely always been as much about business as love, but all the sexual liaisons he's had have been explicitly consensual with the possible exception of Broderick whose story has changed multiple times.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:32am PT
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Not really - every other encounter has been documented as consensual by the women involved.
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabond movin on
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:34am PT
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:35am PT
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No balls, then, TGT?
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:38am PT
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Guys, yer being trolled again this morning.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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HFCS posted
I'm beginning to lean toward so-called... universal basic income.
Considering the direction that our society is going, that may well be our future.
NutAgain's excellent posts on technology changing our culture and creating more income inequality appears to be a trend. Neither political party has answers to the pains created by technology changing our lives and culture. The old paradigms will not apply.
As society advances and life becomes easier, citizens demand more services. Freebies will continue to grow until they become unsustainable. Everything in life runs in cycles.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:49am PT
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News flash, Riley: Bill Clinton is not running for POTUS.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:56am PT
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You are so much more educated than we are, Riley.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:59am PT
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Well, at least Hillary didn't grab anyone by the pussy.
I think the jury is still out on that one. Just sayin.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Oct 13, 2016 - 10:59am PT
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HFCS:
yes, i believe a universal basic income [replacing the waste of all of the existing social programs] is an inevitability. or at least an inevitability for those countries not interested in actual physical class based warfare. here is why:
take what amazon [and its online shopping based business cousins] has done to the retail industry in a few short years, continue to extrapolate that over the next five to ten, and then start applying that to a lot of large sector employers. it looks like we may have driverless trucking within 5-10 years, potentially eliminating a good portion of one of the largest employers of males in the u.s. much of fast food can be automated. agriculture is already incredibly efficient compared to even 30 years ago. and the list goes on and on.
point being i'll be shocked if in my lifetime most countries [minus possibly the u.s. - and that is only because i don't see the philosophy of personal and collective violence based empire ending anytime soon] have not instituted a basic income.
not allowing people autonomy to negotiate not starving and not freezing, when we as a collective have turned into one where automation, and the many other advances in efficiency means that, to give one solid example, the family farm that I grew up on, which only about thirty years ago supported something like 17 families [including putting a whole generation of kids through university] is now [mostly] farmed by only one family [and that one farm probably produces enough basic grains to feed a small city].
i'd bet that in a shorter time than we might expect much of the world will look back to a time where people had to beg and/or fill out days worth of paperwork to be fed and put a shelter over their heads as absurd of a time, as when people had no choice but to work 14 hours a day, seven days a week, with no unemployment or workers compensation insurance and that would start, if they were born into the wrong family, at the age of twelve [or eight or six... you get the point.]
i suspect the u.s. will be one of the longer holdouts however.
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