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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 22, 2016 - 09:36am PT
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 22, 2016 - 09:49am PT
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"The alternative is setting the country back 40 years. Fight for climate change? Gone. EPA. Gone. Clean Air and Water Acts. Gone. LGBT rights. Gone. RvW. Gone. Person of color - want to see systematic racism in full swing? Yeah, Make America White Again. Racist White.
And that doesn't even mention a wrecked economy, massive jobs lost, a stock market that will tank, and WWIII."
This.
Precisely & exactly.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 22, 2016 - 09:51am PT
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And I sincerely doubt Esco = Chief.
Esco is his very own, special type of annoying.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Sep 22, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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More like setting the country back 40 years for the next 40 years given the supreme court is on the line.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 22, 2016 - 10:20am PT
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The alternative is setting the country back 40 years. Fight for climate change? Gone. EPA. Gone. Clean Air and Water Acts. Gone. LGBT rights. Gone. RvW. Gone. Person of color - want to see systematic racism in full swing? Yeah, Make America White Again. Racist White.
And that doesn't even mention a wrecked economy, massive jobs lost, a stock market that will tank, and WWIII."
And just think, you Hillary retards claim the 2nd amendment people exaggerate about her wanting to take away their guns. Lol!
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c wilmot
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Sep 22, 2016 - 10:24am PT
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WW3 is already in progress in Syria. Obama now wants to arm the Kurds despite embedding US soldiers with Turkeys forces who are also in Syria fighting the .... Kurds.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 22, 2016 - 10:44am PT
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Bob, that's not exactly what I'm saying. What I will say is she is certainly knot a regressive.
Although she did call herself one once and since I read about it on the internet it must be true.
My point is that unless I'm missing something she's not about to undo all that President Obama has done. Much of it I regard as being progressive. But yeah, she's certainly no Ms. Warren or Senator Sanders.
Edit: Oh wait... my bad. I missed a the word "not" in your post. That said, I know she has progressive ideas. But Compared to the above two people I have a hard time calling her a true progressive. But I suppose that said, she's certainly dead set on moving our country forward (progressive) and not backwards (regressive) like Drumpf.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Sep 22, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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Clinton is a moderate. But she's still a liberal. You're right about her preserving Obama's accomplishments. And I'm guessing her initiatives will lean left or be neutral. She's pragmatic. She's got the experience and relationships to get her programs passed.
Having Donald Trump as her opponent has allowed her the luxury of playing hardball, without attacking the Republicans. She'll be able to use that as President.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 22, 2016 - 11:10am PT
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Or maybe I mean Mr. Sanders ;-)
I just got done watching here shred that dickback from Wells and here name plate says Ms. Warren so I typed that.
either way... that's one way to pic a nit
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
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Did you guys get a chance to sign the In-n-Out petition yet? Hurry before it closes!
What a crock of sh#t.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
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I thought esco was that woman that cosmic doesn't like(?)
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Cragar
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MSLA - MT
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:45pm PT
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From what I know about her is not what I hear from the media. Not stoked on the Iraq vote but what kills me about her is that she is in bed with Netanyahoo and Israel and that is a complete game changer for me. So, she is dead to me...people complain about Putin ain't as bad as Netanyahoo when it comes to the safety of the US, not eve... Of course, that is my opinion, but until we pull the billions we give to the richest terrorist state in the world we have no moral high-ground as well some of the bloodiest hands this planet has seen.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:54pm PT
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So, you signed it already then I should assume?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:58pm PT
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Fortune's latest issue had an article about what Clinton's election would do for the economy. The article's bottom line was that the economy would probably do OK because she was obviously lying during the primary. Now that's a real spin -- using a candidate's perceived untrustworthiness as an advantage.
Perhaps the most telling thing about this election, though, is that even on Super Topo, where Democrats (and those to their left) probably outnumber Republicans (and those to their right) at least ten-to-one, the thread on Trump gets all the comments, and that on Hillary Clinton gets buried.
John
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:04pm PT
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Perhaps the most telling thing about this election, though, is that even on Super Topo, where Democrats (and those to their left) probably outnumber Republicans (and those to their right) at least ten-to-one, the thread on Trump gets all the comments, and that on Hillary Clinton gets buried.
Demonstrating the old adage that people can't look away from a train wreck--nothing more.
Curt
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:05pm PT
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....Not stoked on the Iraq vote but what kills me about her is that she is in bed with Netanyahoo and Israel and that is a complete game changer for me.....
Oh... it's not just Killary.... If any of them want to keep their brains inside their skulls, they know to swear allegiance to Israel.
Ergo the murdering will continue unabated regardless of the puppet in chief.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:05pm PT
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Fortune's latest issue had an article about what Clinton's election would do for the economy. The article's bottom line was that the economy would probably do OK...
They probably say that because historically the economy does better under Democrat administrations than Republican.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:13pm PT
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They probably say that because historically the economy does better under Democrat administrations than Republican
Please, that horse is well and truly whipped beyond all recognition. The
economy barely responds to the Fed any more, it's its own beast. In Europe
the ECB is completely out of ammo to the point of negative interest rates
and their economies are barely sputtering. Only major structural changes,
as if any of those are likely under either candidate, will give any meaningful
boost to the economy.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
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They probably say that because historically the economy does better under Democrat administrations than Republican
Please, that horse is well and truly whipped beyond all recognition. The
economy barely responds to the Fed any more, it's its own beast. In Europe
the ECB is completely out of ammo to the point of negative interest rates
and their economies are barely sputtering. Only major structural changes,
as if any of those are likely under either candidate, will give any meaningful
boost to the economy.
Straw man arguments sure are fun, aren't they?
Curt
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