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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 1, 2008 - 01:14am PT
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Since mudncrud.com is down right now, i thought would alert you folks to a very serious illness spreading across the land: Mungehausen Syndrome.
In Mungehausen syndrome, the affected person exaggerates the need to, or creates conditions for, climbing dirt filled cracks, mossy faces, and seeping corners in order to gain interest, attention, foolishness, and comfort from mud-like people. In some extremes, people suffering from Mungehausen's Syndrome are highly knowledgeable about the practice of climbing at Pinnacles, and are able to produce desperate choss masterpieces that result in multiple and some would say "unnecessary" routes. For example, they may place a bolt on a pink volcanic tuff of a face that is covered in rat feces, bat guano, and loose rock, causing widespread interest in an obscure route, and further causing lengthy and costly exploratory trips and much analyses of route location and prolonged scanning of walls to find said route. The role of "choss lover" is a familiar and comforting one, and it fills a psychological need in people with Mungehausen's. It is distinct from hypovolcandria in that patients with Mungehausen syndrome are aware that they love mud and filth, while sufferers of hypovolcandria actually believe Pinnacles is a nice place to climb.
In many cases, a similar behavior called Mungehausen Syndrome by Proxy has been documented in the elder mudmeisters. The mature mudmeister believes the loose-rock-appreciator has a good line and therefore compels such appreciator to suffer extended belays in the fall line of the new routes the mudmeister elects to take the lead on. Regardless of the mental health of the elder mudmeister, this is a serious form of abuse.
don't wait til it's too late, report abuse now
1-976-GET-CHSS
Has anyone else experienced this? Lost a loved one to weekends away hanging on hooks trying to figure out whether to use a 3.5" bolt or 4"?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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You got me laughing. Pinnacles is where i did my first lead climbing, and although it's a cool place the rock is at best questionable.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Don't know about any of that hypovolcandywhatever sh#t, but I do remember belaying from a tied-off pillar of petrified bat guano in a cave on a chosspile in the Chilcotin wilderness once.
Does that mean I had Mungehausen's disease? Or that I was just batshit crazy?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2008 - 01:52am PT
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Ghost,
well, let's see, you got choss, check. You got obscure wilderness no one has heard of, probably loose rock, check, and you got bat guano.
yeah, you should get checked out. first step, got post some pics of said offensive act on mudncrud.com or here even, but you may not be well received. It's a disease, and people tend to dismiss what the don't understand.
it's going to be ok
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2008 - 02:20am PT
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LOL!!!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2009 - 09:38pm PT
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fricking classic yo!
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:47pm PT
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Do beware of the elder mudmeister... although these bearers of the disorder appear highly functional in their daily lives, they are true vectors of the illness. It is contagious, like all serious illness, blood borne.
also note that hypovolcandria refers to the illness of those who believe Pinnacles is an area of viable rock climbs, and hYPERvolcandria refers to the belief that Mexican and South American volcanoes are viable mountaineering objectives.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:52pm PT
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I believe the crimpsteresque euphemism is "marginal".
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reddirt
climber
Elevation 285 ft
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
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hahaha... where I live, having Mungehausen's might actually be good!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:03pm PT
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Pinnacles?
You mean people climb in that over heated tarantula pit?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:07pm PT
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The Pinns are a chosspile!
but if that's all ya got.....
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climbrunride
Trad climber
Durango, CO
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:10pm PT
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The reason I always climbed routes at the Pinnacles was not because I liked the rock, or even because I liked being scared and playing with modular holds, but because I thought that I better climb it today, because it might not be there tomorrow.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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"because I thought that I better climb it today, because it might not be there tomorrow."
That's how it starts. Yep. So sad. Not much can be done about it.
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:32pm PT
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Munge, you are a glutton for punishment aren't ya! It's like you are trolling for negative comments on the Pinns!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Is the belay on the unmentionible, anything like the "swinging bridge" pitch on Uli biaho?
Okay, i made that part up.
Okay ?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 03:58am PT
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is that a euphemism Jay?
i love the munge ms, or is it just internet role play and not real? e.g. imagine my shock when blondie turned out to be a brunette!?!?!? with only a handful of days there. I barely qualify.
but, however, consider this...
the crowds will be raving over that one. (not pinns)
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Feb 26, 2009 - 04:13am PT
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I once had that syndrome, but luckily, I was cured.
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Gagner
climber
Boulder
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Feb 26, 2009 - 11:04am PT
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Nice shots Deuce4.
As a confirmed and chronic mudaphile I can assure you there is no cure.
As a buddy of mine said after I moved back to Boulder and tried to con him into going to the Fishers (again), and I quote - "Haven't you grown out of that yet?"
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 26, 2009 - 01:08pm PT
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The mention of the pinnacles and guano brings back memories. I forget what route it was, but as I recall we were climbing something on the Discovery wall that near the top you have a traverse out under a roof, and there is a crack in the roof which is a great place to put a couple of friends, and has the distinct odor of guano.
I also recall after topping out the only thing I had to setup a belay on was some small scrub brush. Fortunately I outweighed my second by a fair amount, and straddled a small rock in hopes that should he fall I wouldn't follow him down. I did warn him, don't fall I'm anchored to a shrubbery!
Once again I find myself climbing on choss, our mantra is, it sucks, but it's close.
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