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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 1, 2008 - 01:14am PT
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Since mudncrud.com is down right now, i thought would alert you folks to a very serious illness spreading across the land: Mungehausen Syndrome.
In Mungehausen syndrome, the affected person exaggerates the need to, or creates conditions for, climbing dirt filled cracks, mossy faces, and seeping corners in order to gain interest, attention, foolishness, and comfort from mud-like people. In some extremes, people suffering from Mungehausen's Syndrome are highly knowledgeable about the practice of climbing at Pinnacles, and are able to produce desperate choss masterpieces that result in multiple and some would say "unnecessary" routes. For example, they may place a bolt on a pink volcanic tuff of a face that is covered in rat feces, bat guano, and loose rock, causing widespread interest in an obscure route, and further causing lengthy and costly exploratory trips and much analyses of route location and prolonged scanning of walls to find said route. The role of "choss lover" is a familiar and comforting one, and it fills a psychological need in people with Mungehausen's. It is distinct from hypovolcandria in that patients with Mungehausen syndrome are aware that they love mud and filth, while sufferers of hypovolcandria actually believe Pinnacles is a nice place to climb.
In many cases, a similar behavior called Mungehausen Syndrome by Proxy has been documented in the elder mudmeisters. The mature mudmeister believes the loose-rock-appreciator has a good line and therefore compels such appreciator to suffer extended belays in the fall line of the new routes the mudmeister elects to take the lead on. Regardless of the mental health of the elder mudmeister, this is a serious form of abuse.
don't wait til it's too late, report abuse now
1-976-GET-CHSS
Has anyone else experienced this? Lost a loved one to weekends away hanging on hooks trying to figure out whether to use a 3.5" bolt or 4"?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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You got me laughing. Pinnacles is where i did my first lead climbing, and although it's a cool place the rock is at best questionable.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Don't know about any of that hypovolcandywhatever sh#t, but I do remember belaying from a tied-off pillar of petrified bat guano in a cave on a chosspile in the Chilcotin wilderness once.
Does that mean I had Mungehausen's disease? Or that I was just batshit crazy?
D
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2008 - 01:52am PT
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Ghost,
well, let's see, you got choss, check. You got obscure wilderness no one has heard of, probably loose rock, check, and you got bat guano.
yeah, you should get checked out. first step, got post some pics of said offensive act on mudncrud.com or here even, but you may not be well received. It's a disease, and people tend to dismiss what the don't understand.
it's going to be ok
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2008 - 02:20am PT
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LOL!!!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2009 - 09:38pm PT
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fricking classic yo!
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:47pm PT
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Do beware of the elder mudmeister... although these bearers of the disorder appear highly functional in their daily lives, they are true vectors of the illness. It is contagious, like all serious illness, blood borne.
also note that hypovolcandria refers to the illness of those who believe Pinnacles is an area of viable rock climbs, and hYPERvolcandria refers to the belief that Mexican and South American volcanoes are viable mountaineering objectives.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:52pm PT
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I believe the crimpsteresque euphemism is "marginal".
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reddirt
climber
Elevation 285 ft
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
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hahaha... where I live, having Mungehausen's might actually be good!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:03pm PT
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Pinnacles?
You mean people climb in that over heated tarantula pit?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:07pm PT
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The Pinns are a chosspile!
but if that's all ya got.....
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climbrunride
Trad climber
Durango, CO
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:10pm PT
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The reason I always climbed routes at the Pinnacles was not because I liked the rock, or even because I liked being scared and playing with modular holds, but because I thought that I better climb it today, because it might not be there tomorrow.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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"because I thought that I better climb it today, because it might not be there tomorrow."
That's how it starts. Yep. So sad. Not much can be done about it.
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msiddens
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Feb 25, 2009 - 10:32pm PT
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Munge, you are a glutton for punishment aren't ya! It's like you are trolling for negative comments on the Pinns!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:22am PT
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Is the belay on the unmentionible, anything like the "swinging bridge" pitch on Uli biaho?
Okay, i made that part up.
Okay ?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 03:58am PT
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is that a euphemism Jay?
i love the munge ms, or is it just internet role play and not real? e.g. imagine my shock when blondie turned out to be a brunette!?!?!? with only a handful of days there. I barely qualify.
but, however, consider this...
the crowds will be raving over that one. (not pinns)
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Feb 26, 2009 - 04:13am PT
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I once had that syndrome, but luckily, I was cured.
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Gagner
climber
Boulder
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Feb 26, 2009 - 11:04am PT
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Nice shots Deuce4.
As a confirmed and chronic mudaphile I can assure you there is no cure.
As a buddy of mine said after I moved back to Boulder and tried to con him into going to the Fishers (again), and I quote - "Haven't you grown out of that yet?"
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 26, 2009 - 01:08pm PT
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The mention of the pinnacles and guano brings back memories. I forget what route it was, but as I recall we were climbing something on the Discovery wall that near the top you have a traverse out under a roof, and there is a crack in the roof which is a great place to put a couple of friends, and has the distinct odor of guano.
I also recall after topping out the only thing I had to setup a belay on was some small scrub brush. Fortunately I outweighed my second by a fair amount, and straddled a small rock in hopes that should he fall I wouldn't follow him down. I did warn him, don't fall I'm anchored to a shrubbery!
Once again I find myself climbing on choss, our mantra is, it sucks, but it's close.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2009 - 04:54pm PT
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Deuce4, what home rememdy did you use for the cure?
The greatest minds in the climbing world have tested Mungehausens and agree that there is no one vaccine that will work. Limited trials of a new drug "Yosemiteva" only works on hemmorhoids for Wall Climbers and has no effect on either hyper or hypovolcandria.
Interruptive therapies involving the venom of a King Kobra may delay initial onset, but once too far gone, hospis care in the Old Climber's Home is mandated where they have really nice care and allow you out from time to time on field trips to the backcountry.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 29, 2009 - 03:43am PT
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CDC report on the current situation
Novel MUNGEHAUSEN cases have been reported in many countries around the world, with most of the cases being reported from the United States, particularly California and Utah. Overall, the numbers of new cases of novel MUNGEHAUSEN in California appears to be declining. However, outbreaks continue to be reported in some Oregon communitities. Witch ones, we cannot say. The normal season typically occurs sometime during September to April, and some countries in the Southern Hemisphere are reporting increasing numbers of cases of novel MUNGEHAUSEN.
On June 11, 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 6 in response to the ongoing global spread of the novel mungA (MUNGEHAUSEN) virus. A Phase 6 alert level means that a global pandemic is underway and that there are now ongoing community level outbreaks in multiple parts of world. The Phase 6 pandemic alert level is a reflection of the spread of the virus, not the severity of illness caused by the virus. For more information, see CDC’s MUNGEHAUSEN website.
Health authorities around the world are monitoring the situation. As the situation changes, further information and travel recommendations related to this outbreak will be posted on the mudncrud website.
For the most up-to-date information about case numbers and where they are occurring, visit the following websites:
• United States:
• California CDC MUNGEHAUSEN website www.mudncrud.com
• Oregon Couchmaster website
• Utah website pending a bolt war
Basic Information about Novel MUNGEHAUSEN
The novel MUNGEHAUSEN virus is unique, because it is a combination of genes from Salathe, Robbins, The Birdman, and choss viruses. People who are infected usually have chossticular-like symptoms, including fever, delirium, narrow obsessive focus on short volcanic climbs and heightened sense of adventure. Some people have also reported vomiting (usually Sunday mornings after a full Saturday in the High Peaks and having tried to poison the disease out of the system).
Even though some severe illnesses and deaths from novel MUNGEHAUSEN have been reported, most cases have been similar to chossticular cancer and have not resulted in an untreatable illness. Most cases have occurred in old men with no brains and young punks with no brains.
Recommendations for Travel to Areas Reporting Novel MUNGEHAUSEN
CDC recommends that travelers at high risk for complications from any form of choss discuss their travel plans with their supertopo community. Together, they should look carefully at the MUNGEHAUSEN situation in their destination and the available health-care options in the area. They should discuss their specific health situations and possible increased risk of drinking in the area affected by novel MUNGEHAUSEN.
Healthy people may make travel plans as they normally would and take common sense precautions to protect their health during travel by staying on the trails only climbing in Bear Gulch and not sending and proclaiming Pinnacles a horrible place to climb thereby covering their whiney asses.
Before Your Trip
If you are planning travel to an area where cases of novel MUNGEHAUSEN are being reported, the following recommendations will help you reduce your risk of infection and stay healthy.
Prepare for your trip
• Stay informed. Check updates from the sources listed in the “Current Situation” section above.
• Be sure you are up-to-date with all your choss vaccines (aka Yosemite partners)
• Find out about the other health risks and travel recommendations for your volcanic outing. Snakes, ticks, tarantulas, deer, quail, beautiful scenery, high adventure.
• Pack a travel health kit that contains basic first aid and “medical” supplies. Wild Turkeys are sometimes found to have medicinal value.
• Make sure your insurance is up to date, because you’re a dumbass if you ferget to wear a helmet on a high rock fall day.
Check your own health
Do not travel if you are sick.
If you have mungie-like symptoms, you should stay home and avoid travel for 7 days after you get sick or for at least 24 hours after you stop having symptoms, whichever is longer. This is to keep others from getting this really f'd up virus. Failing that pack be sure to pack a bunch of Bud Light Limes.
During Your Trip
Follow local guidelines
• No chipping, don’t worry just brush it with your hand.
• Follow any movement restrictions and prevention recommendations. Aka three points of contact, use a rope, avoid the high peaks despite their beauty.
• ground up only
What to do if you feel sick
• It is expected that most people will recover without needing medical care.
• If you have severe illness or you are at high risk of loose rock complications, seek medical care. Cf. Splatter Matt route at Yaks.
After Your Trip
• Closely monitor your health for 7 days. Or until the next weekend’s anticipatory project attack, whichever comes first.
Additional Information
If you have specific questions about novel MUNGEHAUSEN cases see the Contact CDC webpage or call 1-800-CHU-UNKS (1-800-555-1212)
To learn more about travel health, visit the CDC Travelers' Health website.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2016 - 08:34am PT
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The CDC reports a recent rise in cases and warns that all at-risk individuals should be inoculated with a "Granitia" a new genetic therapy aimed to prevent recurrent outbreaks by a anti-viral load of 'end of season' granite treatment.
May god have mercy on your souls.
;)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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I've heard that people having Bulgemelon Disorder should maintain distance between themselves and those known to have M.S.
Is this true or an old wives tale spread by that rumor-mongering mudskipper known as Fish?
HardyMen in action.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2018 - 08:53pm PT
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I’ve successfully undergone both snow therapy as well as granite treatments.
They say I’m cured. Much like bacon?
Pinnacles season is upon us but bring yer own TP. Pack it in pack it out gov shutdown!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Dec 27, 2018 - 12:54am PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 27, 2018 - 01:48am PT
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Bacon IS the cure!
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