mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jun 16, 2007 - 06:25pm PT
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Beautiful, Steve!
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snakefoot
climber
cali
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Jun 16, 2007 - 06:35pm PT
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Bitchin stink buggin, thanks for postin
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Jun 16, 2007 - 06:40pm PT
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Cool Steve! Is that the Cobra in the top of the last photo? Looks like it.
JD
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jun 16, 2007 - 07:19pm PT
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way cool - thanks for the nice post Steve
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jun 16, 2007 - 10:43pm PT
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Is that the Cobra in the top of the last photo?
The Cobra is further left, pretty much directly above, just a bit right, of the 5.6 Royal Arches route's penji bolts. It's to the left of the the big corner and arched roof system that comprises the proper Royal Arches formation. Shaky Flakes goes up under the big arch.
Steve's first, panoramic, photo shows a big, undercut roof left of the Arches formation; the Cobra goes just right of that, but the crack is not visible in the photo. The pitches to get from the 5.6 RA penji to the Cobra Crack go up the smooth, 5.9/5.10 slab above the uppermost grey flake, probably with ancient, rusted, 1/4" bolts for pro. I went up there once, and promptly bailed. Cracks I understand. Runout slab? Not my idea of fun. Tobin Sorenson went up and freed the Cobra with his brother, but I'm comfortable knowing my abilities were/are not on a par with his.
Royal Arches Direct (Robbins, McCracken(?)) goes somewhere through the roofs in Steve's other photos. The Drip Factor is rumored to be horrendous.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Jun 17, 2007 - 09:19am PT
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Thanks Tom. I'm familiar w/ the Cobra, just right of the big eyebrow. Shakey Flakes seems to be directly under it, but under the big arch. Cool vantage looking up on that last photo.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Jun 17, 2007 - 09:21am PT
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blast from the past, nice stuff...Gene Drake used to tell me that EB's held better on edges than any of this "new fangled stuff" (I think Stealth 2 was the hot chit then...)
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2007 - 09:51am PT
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Jerry, no mistaking the Cobra. You are correct. Definitely an unusual perspective. Any of you guys that have done the Cobra free or on aid, what is the protection scene up there with modern equipment? The early stories from the FFA are exciting to say the least but gear has improved dramatically and I would like to follow in Tobin's wake some time.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2007 - 08:16am PT
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If I can just get my foot to stay on this...bump.
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wiclimber
Trad climber
devil's lake, wi
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Jun 22, 2007 - 08:24am PT
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Something is amiss.
I see no chalk bags on these guys. Photoshopped out maybe?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 22, 2007 - 09:07am PT
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Wow, those first two climbing shots are fab, looks like a night scene, WTF-O.
I did Shaky Flakes just after Fires came out. I had this beautiful pair of EBs resoled with Contact rubber, the schnizzle back then. Took 'em out one day to the base of El Cap, and forgot them there.
The next day we headed over to some face climbing. My buddy had a new pair of Fires, which we shared by sending them down the trail line. I got to lead what was then the .11c crux, it went real smooth like. Now they rate it .11a...new rubber lowered the grade? Perhaps.
3rd class it?? Boy, all balls, no brains!! I thought that .10d was SCARY!
I'd love to go back and do that route, but like so many classics of yester-year, I am afraid of the old bolts. What are we going to do about this, it's a crisis.
As for the Cobra, I've been looking at that for years. But like others, I'm afraid of Tobin-age bolts. I believe that Clint recently mentioned that he'd done it. Clint, did you rap from the top or manage your way from the ground?
Cheerio...
:- k
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durban
climber
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Jun 22, 2007 - 09:25am PT
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cool thread. here's me on the rambler, from which we got a good look at some of shakey flakes. we'd heard some bolts were missing from shakey flakes. anyone know?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 22, 2007 - 09:32am PT
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Funny, I heard a bolt was missing from Rambler, 2nd pitch...
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Jun 22, 2007 - 11:03am PT
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I caught a big tumbling fall on the Rambler about ten years ago. Jim Lundeen was leading. He came whipping off and I went running down hill with all kinds of rope coming down at me. Bastard went back up and did the same thing a second time. I was the freaked one. He came down and asked if I wanted to give it a go. We bailed.
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John Vawter
Social climber
San Diego
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Jun 22, 2007 - 11:09am PT
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Somebody give a shout to Greg Barnes to put this on the list. Looks great, and without the looming threat from above that the Apron has. Great old shots. Chalkless! Nicely done.
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durban
climber
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Jun 22, 2007 - 11:17am PT
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haha, where you see me standing in the picture is where the bolt's missing (it's the first pitch, not the 2nd). my partner had plenty of time to take the shot while i debated whether to continue.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jun 22, 2007 - 12:19pm PT
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Classic shots, Steve! Thanks for sharing. I remember having fun on it in the mid-80s (with Fires).
http://www.safeclimbing.org/areas/california/yosemitefree.htm
reports:
Shaky Flakes Replaced 30 bolts. All belay bolts are 3/8". Almost all lead bolts are 3/8". THERE ARE BOLTS MISSING ON PITCHES 4-6!! 12/97 ASCA
As for the Cobra, the first (5.8) pitch above the Royal Arches pendulum point has all new bolts (possibly retroed; someone did a new route above it). The second pitch (5.9, which has the interesting step across the wet streak) has mostly original 3/16" or 1/4" Star-Dryvin bolts - it needs to be fixed (as of June 2004; I have not been back on it since) and can be done quickly. It had a missing bolt just before stepping across the streak. The traversing pitches after that are fine and do not rely on any ancient bolts, although a few could be upgraded. The bolt belay in the final corner has an ASCA bolt, and the top belay is fine.
Photos at: http://www.stanford.edu/~clint/rep/04617/index.htm
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jun 22, 2007 - 02:23pm PT
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Great pictures Clint! Thanks for the update.
As for Shakey Flakes, makes you wonder about those missing bolts.
For example, why are they missing after the rebolting effort? Should somebody go up and replace them; if so, how do you know where the missing ones go?
On Rambler, the ASCA site says:
Replaced 20 bolts. All anchor bolts and most protection bolts are 3/8" 12/97 Chris McNamara, Jim Herson
:- k
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 22, 2007 - 10:48pm PT
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I enjoyed Shakey Flakes. I had heard the crux was 11b when I led it, but the crux pitch was like a breath of fresh (hard) air since at least it had pretty ok pro.
I remember a pitch up high where my partner did a 10a move with no pro in sight and could have slide a long way to finally launch over a small roof.
I wonder if I can still handle so much fun and excitement?
Peace
Karl
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