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del cross

Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 7, 2018 - 03:31pm PT
So my friend broke her leg in the Dolomites. The SAR guys were quick to arrive and the hospital there was super efficient, friendly people. They fixed her up and she flew home. That was almost two years ago.

She has a bill from them but can't figure out how to pay it. The wire transfer information is incomplete according to her bank. The other options they accept are a "Postal Order" or a "Bank Check" (translating from Italian) but payment has to be in Euros. How can this be done?

By the way, the total bill was 100 euros. Our healthcare system sucks.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Mar 7, 2018 - 03:35pm PT
Our healthcare system sucks.



Nor Cal
Mar 7, 2018 - 03:36pm PT
crazy cheap. give me the check and i can give it to them this september, ha.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 7, 2018 - 03:42pm PT
I’m having the same problem trying to buy a linear actuator from a large firm there.
They’re like in the 1980’s there.

“Have you people heard of credit cards?”

Mar 7, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
Our healthcare system sucks.

No, it doesn't suck, it's actually a criminal system masqueraded as healthcare .....
del cross

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 04:01pm PT
give me the check and...

I don't have a check. That's the problem.

I need a check that's in Euros. My limited googling skills brings up something called an International Bank Draft or Foreign Draft but I can't figure out how to actually buy one.


Social climber
Mar 7, 2018 - 04:02pm PT
hey there say, werner... well said...

*should also put a edit here:
i have so many older folks, hurt through the years, by it...
and of recent, more-so...
(as we well-know, there are families, as well)



Social climber
Mar 7, 2018 - 04:05pm PT
hey there say, del cross...

i know two folks that might know how to do that...

however, that is 'might' and, they are older folks from
europe, so, whatever they 'used to do' may have changed...

you most likely will find out what to do before i get hold of them...
but, just wanted to say:

we're trying to help, :)

no at a bank, knows what to tell you, or,
who to advise you to go to?

it'll get solved, hang in there... :)

hope her leg is doing good... :)

say, does, paypal turns payments into euros?
oh, and, what about the credit card option,
like the one poster, shared???
del cross

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 04:15pm PT
The bill says that payment may be made by one of four methods:

presso l'uff (in person)
bonifico (wire transfer)
a mezzo Vaglia Postale (Postal Order)
Assegno Banc (bank check)

But it has to be in Euros.

The bill is actually pretty fun to see:

23,00 - visita di pronto soccorso (visit)
27,90 - rx tibiotarsica sn (? Rx for the broken bone)
20,50 - visita ortopedica (the doctor's fee)
20,45 - gesso (the plaster cast)
3,10 - iniezione (an injection)

I guess the x-ray was included in the 23 Euro entry fee.
I can easily spend more on a 15 minutes shopping trip to Whole Foods.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 7, 2018 - 04:17pm PT

Werner's got it right.

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Mar 7, 2018 - 04:26pm PT
As someone who works in healthcare, it's hard to see things like this, as it does really indicate how broken the system is.

Similarly I hate to see all the GoFundMe requests. While I've contributed to a few, it's not something we should have to do for relatively standard care.
del cross

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
I'm pretty sure Italy has universal health care. Probably my friend's visit would have been free if she were a resident, although her taxes would likely be higher.

I hadn't even thought of GoFundMe. It's just 100 Euros. But one way to settle the bill is to show up in person and pay. So perhaps she could get crowd funding for another trip to the Dolomites?

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Mar 7, 2018 - 04:48pm PT
Take your check/cheque. Cross out the $ symbol and write the amount. Label it EUROS next to the written amount and put the € in front of the numeric amount.

Not hard.
del cross

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 05:08pm PT
Take your check/cheque. Cross out the $ symbol and write the amount. Label it EUROS...

Does it matter what color crayon I use?

Seriously, do you mean a personal check?


Social climber
Mar 7, 2018 - 05:25pm PT
hey there say, del cross...

also, say, since, someone here helped me learned what euros, was...
well, can you also ask ?banks? or, the folks you owe:

isn't there a euro exchange, in italy, or ANY other country, as well...
like if you sent in US money, couldn't they 'turn it into euros'
for you to have it paid then???

or, does only work the opposite? --you send the euros, and
then, italy, gets their OWN money, that way ... etc...

just curious if anyone knows if this exist??

*my german friend, just went to bed...
so can't ask her what she does... tonight... :(

oh big edit here:

just saw this... what you share, on your bill:
by wire...

say, folks MUST do this all time...
they 'wire' system would know what to do, wouldn't it...


Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 7, 2018 - 05:37pm PT

In the USA, hop to a bank and bring a mask.
del cross

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2018 - 05:48pm PT
*Any* bank?

I searched the website of my bank and could find no mention of an international check. Then, for kicks, I tried calling them. You can imagine how that worked out.

I'm willing to endure the purgatory of waiting endlessly at a bank branch, if it's eventually productive. I haven't been to the DMV in about 20 years. I sort of miss that.

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 7, 2018 - 05:58pm PT
Two options I can imagine: Traveler’s cheques are probably considered bank checks? Go to your bank and see if they will sell you whatever the minimum amount is in euros. Make it out to the payee , mail. You may need to buy more than 100 euros worth but with the temainder. Save for later use or just change back to dollars. You’ll lose some on fees and exchange rate.

Or call the payees bank and get the proper string info for the wire transfer. Wire transfer fee for international could be 1/3 your bill!

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 7, 2018 - 06:01pm PT
You should be able to walk into any bank and buy a bank check for the amount in Euro's. You'll probably want to talk to someone at a desk, the teller might not be able to initiate the exchange.

My brother lives in France and I handle his US banking for him. I do it all the time. Wire transfers are expensive.

Edit. I should have said your bank. I've only done this at a bank where we have our accounts. Another might be fine too, but that I haven't done.
John M

Mar 7, 2018 - 06:10pm PT
Del.. it might not be called an international check. It might be called an international bank draft on their website. I would go into your bank and skip the teller. I would stand around near the desks until someone there asks you what you need. That works for me. They usually find someone to help me. But I mostly deal with small town banks.
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