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bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2015 - 05:11pm PT
Clint and I were rebolting at the Pinnacles National Park on Hidden Pinnacle and came across the three similar hangers in the photo. The route we rebolted was put up in 1961. Does anyone know who made the hangers (no points for guessing the Leeper hanger in the lower left)?

mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Mar 4, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
Kor?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
Weld-It's dad. Dood got around; those things were/are everywhere it seems.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Mar 4, 2015 - 05:27pm PT
Was there more details added I take my guess back. I am going with Mungeclimbers dad.
two-shoes

Trad climber
Auberry, CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
Bruce, there is a hanger that looks just like it in my 1962 Ski Hut catalog. Says it was made of Chrome-Molybdenum steel alloy. For use with either Rawl Bolts or Dryvin Bolt. Two sizes, Specify 1/4" or 3/8" bolt hole when ordering. Carabiner hole 5/8" diameter. 3/4 oz.........................32cents each. No brand name.

Did Dolt make these, perhaps?

I've pulled some at Tollhouse that date back to 1958 or 1960 I believe and have George Session's initials stamped into them.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
Bruce, there is a hanger that looks just like it in my 1962 Ski Hut catalog. Says it it made of Chrome-Molybdenum steel alloy. For use with either Rawl Bolts or Dryvin Bolt. Two sizes, Specify 1/4" or 3/8" bolt hole when ordering. Carabiner hole 5/8" diameter. 3/4 oz.........................32cents each. No brand name.

Did Dolt make these, perhaps?

I've pulled some at Tollhouse that date back to 1958 or 1960 I believe and have George Session's initials stamped into them.

That all seems to fit. The guys who put up the route were members of the Sierra Club RCS here in the Bay Area and the Ski Hut would have been a likely place to buy gear.

I wonder who the manufacturer is?
two-shoes

Trad climber
Auberry, CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 06:01pm PT
I'm wrong about Dolt making this, he would never have made something so crude looking. Dick Long made a style similar to Leeper, but they were a little bigger and beefier, and they were bent the other direction, which was bad news for right handers.

Probably just some guy making them in his garage somewhere?

Ask Al Steck!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 4, 2015 - 06:18pm PT
Everyone thinks that He rested on the seventh day but everybody needs a hobby.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 4, 2015 - 06:24pm PT
No shortage of examples of the one on the lower left. We have them up here and I saw them back in the NE when I lived there, so someone must have been selling them.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 4, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
Those are home made steel strap hangers which could have been made by the FAers or their friends. Dolt, Leeper and Longware made alloy steel hangers commercially during the 60s with SMC entering later.

Anyone with a drill press, vise and a hammer can make a strap hammer like that so if it lacks a stamp you are on your own identifying it.

Lots of pictures of funk here...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/286252/Bolts-from-the-wayback-machine
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 4, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
Seen way too many exact duplicates of the lower left one in too many places for it not to have been commercially available by someone.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
Those are home made steel strap hangers
One of them (in the upper left corner) could be.
But the 2 on the right are not.
The unusual thing about these 2 hangers on the right which may not be clear in the photo
is that there is a rounded ring built into the hole where you clip the biner.

Of course the one on the lower left is a Leeper, commercially made in large numbers.

I've seen the Longware model which is similar to the Leeper; we have one on the Friends of Pinnacles hanger example display board.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 4, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 4, 2015 - 07:44pm PT
A Spencer hanger put to the test.
Greg Barnes

climber
Mar 4, 2015 - 07:58pm PT
The unusual thing about these 2 hangers on the right which may not be clear in the photo
is that there is a rounded ring built into the hole where you clip the biner.
I've seen lots of homemade strap hangers like this (often in aluminum too), but never with the ring built into the biner hole. Cool!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 4, 2015 - 08:16pm PT
Clipped a Steve Caruthers, "bandito-esque" style hanger today at the Cat wall
two-shoes

Trad climber
Auberry, CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 08:38pm PT
I see what you mean, Greg. It looks like a grommet was pressed into the hole.

I thought Bruce put up another photo from the first time that I looked. Was it just my imagination?
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Mar 4, 2015 - 08:49pm PT
It looks like a grommet was pressed into the hole.
Right. The grommet part includes both aluminum and steel.
I suppose this could still be done at home, if you started with one side of the grommet finished and had a cone/tool to hammer in and finish the other side.
So maybe homemade like Steve thought, but with a fair amount of effort.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 11:18pm PT
I don't think these are homemade hangers. All four of them have exactly the same bend in the middle at the exact same angle. It is pretty hard to do that if you are making your own hangers unless you have a template.

Also, there is the grommet pressed into the carabiner hole. That seems like a lot of extra work for someone who is just making gear for their own use.

As 'two shoes' pointed out, these resemble hangers in the 1962 Ski Hut catalogue. Maybe Marty or Stephane can help us out.

And, yes, as I said in the OP at the top of the thread, the hanger in the lower left is a Leeper. Ed only made about 95,000 of those so they aren't very rare or interesting.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 4, 2015 - 11:40pm PT
And, yes, as I said in the OP at the top of the thread, the hanger in the lower left is a Leeper.
Ah, missed that...thanks.
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