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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 10, 2014 - 09:29am PT
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anyone know what happened to the trees in between midterm and leanie meanie? Pretty sad to see them gone...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Nov 10, 2014 - 10:22am PT
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any more info from your visit?
saw? rockfall cuts? Fire crew trails nearby?
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2014 - 11:07am PT
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Either saw or chainsaw.
Two or three oak trees that were right next to the rock.
Debris of the trees was thrown over, blocking the old new dimensions approach trail
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 10, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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Makes one go "Hmmmm ..."
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Nov 10, 2014 - 12:19pm PT
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Any evidence of hand line as a fall back position from the fire?
If not, not liking.
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
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mungeclimber-- you could very well be right. It was probably related to the fire-fighting effort
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 10, 2014 - 03:10pm PT
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Trees? When i did those climbs the crux was getting across the bergschrund to the rock.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Nov 10, 2014 - 03:52pm PT
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Mungeclimber had a photoshoot! >:)
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dindolino32
climber
san francisco
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Nov 10, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
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Hi Matt, I think possibly saw you on saturday morning. Our guess was the branches are there to promote climbers to use a different trail, but it just messed with us and made us knock more loose crap down the hill. It was weird though.
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
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don't worry donini, the crux is still doing the boulder field and avoiding the poison oak...
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 11:34am PT
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Does not look like the work of Fire crew but more like eco terrorism.
Whomever did this was insane ......
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 19, 2014 - 11:35am PT
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dude that's f*#ked!
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 11:42am PT
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This is the base of "Midterm"
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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thanks for going up there and taking pictures, werner. This is exactly what I was taking about. You can see how you now have to cut through the trees on the left to get to New Dimensions, as the debris of the trees covers the old trail.
I still have no idea who did it, and why....
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
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There are 2 main trails up to the Arch Rock climbing area base.
This madman went up and down both of them and chainsawed small trees, branches and other vegetation on both those approaches also.
At the base of Arch Rock, the only the area in the photos have been chain sawed, nowhere else.
Why was this insanity done?
The only speculation I can come up with is some lunatic thought it would facilitate unobstructed top roping and view of Leanie Meanie and Gripper/Gripped.
This is one of the most bizarre things done I've seen in a high used area here.
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Matt's
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
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werner-- are you sure it wasn't a fire crew trying to create some sort of fire perimeter or something?
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
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Has anyone checked with the NPS restoration crews? The NPS might have decided to remove those trails. It is highly unlikely anyone would "get away" with this, when the entrance gate is so close, along with the arch rock housing which has trail crew living there
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
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Is it really possible to run a chainsaw there without attracting any attention?
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Impaler
Social climber
Oakland
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
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The trails aren't actually removed. There are tree debris blocking one or two of them, but it's possible to get around and not too hard. It looked to me like someone was trying to comfortize the crag. Maybe make it less shady at the base. Who knows?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
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A fire perimeter only at the base of the Midterm/Gripper?
What would that even accomplish?
I asked the entrance station crew if they ever heard chain saw noise in the last few weeks and nobody heard a thing they said.
Insanity .....
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