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MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 7, 2014 - 07:05am PT
It will now be celebrated as "Indigenous Peoples' Day" - a much more honorable celebration, IMO.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/06/columbus-day-will-now-be-indigenous-peoples-day-in-seattle/


SEATTLE – The Seattle City Council is replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples' Day in the city.

The resolution that passed unanimously Monday celebrates the contributions and culture of Native Americans and the indigenous community in Seattle on the second Monday in October, the same day as the federally recognized Columbus Day.

Tribal members and other supporters say the move recognizes the rich history of people who have inhabited the area for centuries.

"This action will allow us to bring into current present day our valuable and rich history, and it's there for future generations to learn," said Fawn Sharp, president of the Quinault Indian Nation on the Olympic Peninsula, who is also president of the Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians.

"Nobody discovered Seattle, Washington," she said to a round of applause.

Several Italian-Americans and others objected to the change, saying Indigenous Peoples' Day honors one group while disregarding the Italian heritage of others.

Columbus Day is a federal holiday that commemorates the arrival of Christopher Columbus, who was Italian, in the Americas on Oct. 12, 1492. It's not a legal state holiday in Washington.

"We don't argue with the idea of Indigenous Peoples' Day. We do have a big problem of it coming at the expense of what essentially is Italian Heritage Day," said Ralph Fascitelli, an Italian-American who lives in Seattle, speaking outside the meeting.

"This is a big insult to those of us of Italian heritage. We feel disrespected," Fascitelli said. He added, "America wouldn't be America without Christopher Columbus."

Seattle Mayor Ed Murray is expected to sign the resolution Oct. 13, his spokesman Jason Kelly said.

The Bellingham City Council also is concerned that Columbus Day offends some Native Americans. It will consider an ordinance Oct. 13 to recognize the second Monday in October as Coast Salish Day.

The Seattle School Board decided last week to have its schools observe Indigenous Peoples' Day on the same day as Columbus Day. Earlier this year, Minneapolis also decided to designate that day as Indigenous Peoples' Day. South Dakota, meanwhile, celebrates Native American Day.

Seattle councilmember Bruce Harrell said he understood the concerns from people in the Italian-American community, but he said, "I make no excuses for this legislation." He said he co-sponsored the resolution because he believes the city won't be successful in its social programs and outreach until "we fully recognize the evils of our past."

Councilmember Nick Licata, who is Italian-American, said he didn't see the legislation as taking something away, but rather allowing everyone to celebrate a new day where everyone's strength is recognized.

David Bean, a member of the Puyallup Tribal Council, told councilmembers the resolution demonstrates that the city values tribal members' history, culture, welfare and contributions to the community.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:21am PT
Anyone interested in the state of things in the Americas before Columbus arrived should read "1491" by Charles Mann. It's a large book, and there is plenty to argue about or disagree with in it, but it does paint a different picture than your fourth-grade teacher did.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Plymouth Rock had landed on the pilgrims, instead of the other way round.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:42am PT
I am irrevocably indigenous.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:42am PT
F*#k Columbus
Slabby D

Trad climber
B'ham WA
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:47am PT

Seriously people, time for a history lesson.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day
dirtbag

climber
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:50am PT
Yes, fook Columbus. Many years ago I read an excerpt from his travel log. In one paragraph he is praising the kindness and generosity of the people who greeted him in the New World. In the next, he's talking about how they would make fine slaves.

We have admired him because he had giant balls and a vision. But there are plenty of wonderful people worthy of admiration who had giant balls and a vision that didn't include slavery.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2014 - 08:02am PT
My only problem with this is the use of 'indigenous'.
It seems more suited to a prostrate exam.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 7, 2014 - 08:03am PT
Sketch is still bitter the Confederacy lost.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Oct 7, 2014 - 08:24am PT
The Washington Taters got their butts kicked last night.

sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:13am PT
Without smallpox decimating the native populations, the europeans would have been driven into the ocean. Cortez and his cohorts would have been skinned and stretched on willow hoops for the amusement of the Aztecs. Disease leveled the playing field and made such conquests possible. Without it, the US would look very different today.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:30am PT
Perhaps we should have national smallpox day . . .
John M

climber
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:39am PT
Even without disease, the Europeans likely would have defeated the native Americans, because the Europeans had superior weapons and they used the native American tribes against themselves.

The amount of mythology around native Americans is astounding. They were tribal and sometimes incredibly brutal people. Some were good, others weren't. Whole tribes were often wiped out by a different tribe. There is nothing different about that from the Europeans.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:47am PT
Hallmark has a card for it.

Susan
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:50am PT
Meanwhile, the Vikings still play football in Minnesota

Thanks a lot, man! Now the Internet Social Justice Warriors (ISJW's) are going to take that away, too!


;)
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:51am PT
What if Columbus Day become an "awareness" day? Like National AIDS day or December 7th?


Don't need any new statues or anything, just have to carve a frowny face on him and replace his sextant with a whip.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Oct 7, 2014 - 09:54am PT
History is written by the conquerors.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 7, 2014 - 10:00am PT
It's true, thems were a f*#ked up time. In fact, I often ponder my luck at being born in the advanced age I was, in a country with plenty of freedom and opportunity (Good 'nuff for me), with access to clean water and food and a life that I can pretty easily spend surrounded by friends and family - providing I don't screw something up royally.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2014 - 10:09am PT
I often ponder my luck at being born in the advanced age I was

Don't you wish you remembered some of yer previous incarnations like some of us do?
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 7, 2014 - 10:17am PT
Mushrooms help : /
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 7, 2014 - 10:44am PT
goodbye seattle for they are sleepless in columbus and in digenous they're angry and in italy unsettled

ahoy, captain, i think i've spotted a columbus day sail!!!

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