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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 24, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
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Anyone got any good links, resources, or knowledge of th
is disease?
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
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yeah google does
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
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My Dad died from it. I'm not looking forward to it.
But I couldn't reasonably call myself knowledgeable.
Donini is a believer in the radioactive "seeds". He seems to be living proof. I've climbed with the man, he's doing well.
I'm sure he'll chime in.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 24, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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Almost universal in older men, a chronic condition. Fairly lethal in younger men. It took Zappa at 52(?)
Good luck Zip
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jstan
climber
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Apr 24, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
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Easy to google. Get your PSA and a good urologist. Now.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 24, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
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Live long enough and you'll get it.
My uncle just had surgery a couple months ago. Successful thus far. He recovered quickly.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Apr 24, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
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Get your PSA and a good urologist. Now.
BOTH of those are vital. People tend to take comfort in PSA tests, and they aren't all that predictive by themselves. They can diagnose too late.
My next door neighbor and best friend had a slightly elevated test after years of testing normal, which his doctor said warranted further tests. Two weeks later he was diagnosed as final stages, and two years later he passed away despite pretty aggressive treatment. He had hoped to see his daughters go to college. Didn't happen.
On the other hand, I have three climbing partners who got PC at 40, 45, and 50. All are leading relatively normal lives with chemo and the seeds. The oldest just turned 70 and just celebrated with a trek to 17K on the Nepal side of Everest. The others are about 55 and 60 and we are planning another Sierra climbing trip for the summer.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
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First PSA test came back high.
Urologist wants me to go have 2nd test.
If that tests comes back same, he wants to do a biopsy.
My Dad had Prostate Cancer.
I'm 55.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Apr 24, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
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stay on top of it and good luck to you.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:12pm PT
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It is argued that PSA tests are of minimal value. My routine physical exam did not include one, though at my option I can request it. The doctor gave me a reference to the literature. I don't have it handy right now, will look for it.
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jstan
climber
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
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Look for it.
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cyndiebransford
climber
Kenai Peninsula, Alaska
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
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My husband, who is 62, was just diagnosed a few weeks ago. Elevated PSA, second PSA even higher. He then had a biopsy, which put him in the hospital with sepsis. This is highly uncommon, but does happen with the wrong antibiotic. We have since learned that a colon swab can be done before the biopsy to grow in the lab and know the specific antibiotic needed to prevent this. Now the infection is still rearing its ugly head four weeks later. He did not have the option of surgery because of it. So radiation and hormone treatment are on the agenda. He has had his first hormone injection to prevent the production of testosterone. You can e-mail me if you have specific questions. Lots of good info on the internet, but be sure to look at recent studies and resources. Things have changed rapidly in the treatment of prostate cancer.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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The reference is not in my email. I have it written down in my notes. don't have notes available right now. Many factors can cause elevated PSA.
You can start here though.
Routine PSA Tests No Longer Recommended - American Urological Association
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260087.php
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
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As jstan said, "a good urologist". Rob Raker got "overlooked" in his annual check up and right now I consider him a living miracle. Part of that miracle is due to his incredible love of life along with the awesome research he conducted to understand the decisions he needed to make.
As with Rob, I will keep you in my prayers, Zip.
Best, Lynne
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
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A correctly administered MRI can give you the same diagnostic results as a biopsy without the risks of this invasive procedure.
Do lots of research.
Urologists make thousands of dollars for every biopsy they preform (average 15 min). It is big business and the reason 20 million unnecessary biopsies are performed on men in America every year.
Get a second, third, forth... opinion before you decide on a Biopsy.
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Apr 24, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
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Been there Zip, PM me.
lars
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GLee
Social climber
MSO
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Apr 24, 2014 - 06:14pm PT
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Zip,
From reading the book 'Overdiagnosed' (Dr H Gilbert Welch, ISBN: 978-0-8070-2199-6, January 3, 2012), I learned of these Health Websites that may be of use to you:
http://www.ahrq.gov/
http://www.thecochranelibrary.com/view/0/index.html
http://www.nice.org.uk/
http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/centers-institutes/evidence-based-policy-center/derp/index.cfm
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/default.htm
And the US News & World Report on Doctors (also Hospitals, and Health & Wellness):
http://health.usnews.com/doctors
(just a brief check found this:
Blumberg, Jeremy MD
Urology
Los Angeles, CA
Ronald Reagan University of California Los Angeles Medical Center
#4 Nationally in Urology
who knows, maybe #1 is in the area
also, UCLA Med Center #4 in Urology)
Certainly not saying that you were 'Overdiagnosd'......
Hoping this might help,
Montucky GLee
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Apr 24, 2014 - 06:32pm PT
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"Curcumin sensitizes prostate cancer cells to tumor necrosis factor–related apoptosis-inducing ligand/Apo2L by inhibiting nuclear factor-κB through suppression of IκBα phosphorylation"
http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/3/7/803.full
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Apr 24, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
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Kind thoughts your way Zip.
F*#k prostate cancer!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 24, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
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cowboy, ditto to All cancer.
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