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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 5, 2014 - 10:58am PT
Hunters killed 1,002 bears in California in 2013, a 48 percent decline from the number killed in 2012, according to the Sacramento Bee

Gee, what happened to the big bad bear killers in California? Couldn't afford bullets for their assault rifles?

Nope.

California bear hunters can't hunt without dogs.

A new California law banning the use of dogs in bear hunting appears to have had a dramatic effect, with fewer bears killed by hunters in 2013 than in any other year over the past two decades.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/04/6046025/new-calif-law-reduces-number-of.html#storylink=cpy

F*#kers can't hunt. That's what happened.

DMT
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:03am PT
Using dogs isn't hunting....who can't shoot a treed bear?
Using dogs to tree bears and mountain lions so that there owners can casually shoot them from close range is the moral equivalent of using chemical weapons on civilian populations.
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:05am PT
I think that coon-dogging a bear or cat into a tree is really actually quite sporting. One must follow the dogs after all, on the cross country race to the fish in the barrel.


My favorite, though, are the folks back east that cannot be bothered to chase dogs to the hapless victim in the tree, but instead offer jelly donuts for 3 weeks in a row until on the fourth: POW!

Class. This is what 'guides' do for you. Not gunna embed the video, but there are some real fine sportsmen to see on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNuv0YIWkj4
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:07am PT
One of my old bosses used to hunt bears with a bow and arrow. I saw the glory pics of him all barefoot and gruff looking next to his prize. But Humboldt County is not really part of California anyways- not the part of California with movie stars and hi-tech visionaries.

Now if he had used a swiss army knife, I would have been impressed.
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climber
north fork
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:08am PT
Yeah, hunting with dogs isn't hunting at all. Might as well fish with dynamite.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:22am PT
There should be a season to use dogs for hunting rednecks.....accept their too drunk and fat to climb trees.
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:22am PT
Amazingly, in many areas, it is still legal to set up bait stations to hunt bears. Now that's real sportsmanship for ya. These lazy bastards don't even bother chasing the dogs.

I'm not anti-hunting but that's just ridiculous.

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climber
north fork
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:23am PT
Haha, that's funny Donini. Something tells me Ron will be here shortly.
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:26am PT
What makes this even worse is that most of these brave hunters don't even eat the meat. They just do it out of blood lust and compensation for a tiny pee pee.
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climber
north fork
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Chewy, some of the pictures you get involve way more hunting skills than baiting and treeing animals. I am a hunter, I do eat the meat (reason why I hunt), and I like to spot and stalk. It's actually a good work out if you suck at it like me.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:34am PT
Ignorant billy.

Take that back.

Fightin' words.

http://www.coedu.usf.edu/culture/Story/Story_Tennessee.htm

My name is Jacob Mulloy, and I am 13 years of age. I met Davy Crockett in 1833 when he was already well known as a great hunter and a congressman in Washington. Davy lived about 25 miles from us, and my dad wanted to hunt bear with him so we would have enough food for the winter.

When Davy rode up on horseback, I was the first one to greet him. He was wearing a coonskin hat and a fur lined jacket. He brought his 8 bear-hunting dogs and his rifle (that he called Betsy). Later, he told me a hunter's best friends are his horse, his dogs, his rifle and his knife.

The best time to hunt bear is during the fall and early winter when a bear is fat and heavy. When they are fat, it difficult to run fast.

The next morning we all began our journey into the forest. The dogs ran ahead looking for the bears. About an hour later, the dogs started barking and yelping because they spotted a bear. "They have one!" Davy yelled.

The dogs were circling a large tree and looking up to where a huge black bear was perched on some branches. Bears are great climbers since they are able to grab on to the bark with their sharp claws. Davy drew his rifle from his saddle and fired. Sure enough, the great furry animal smashed to the ground. The dogs circled it looking for life, but there was none. Davy approached the animal with his hunting knife in hand in case the bear was still alive. Satisfied, he called me to look at the bear. I suddenly realized I was hunting with one of the great men of our country. I knew I would remember this experience forever.

It was six years later (in 1836) that I heard that Davy Crockett had died at the age of 49 defending the Alamo Mission in San Antonio, Texas against the Mexicans. On his tombstone is written: Davy Crockett, Pioneer, Soldier, Patriot, Trapper, Explorer, State Legislature, Congressman, martyred at the Alamo 1786 - 1836.

Map and flag of Tennessee. Nashville is the capital.

Sacramento is the western version? You live here. No disrespect, DMT, but my brother quit his evil ways years back, got divested of the pack about the time Ma Bell got raped and pillaged (Dad worked & slaved in their mine his whole life).

I'm a Merced Bear. I'm a native. I'm a climber and a bumbler, a tumbler I am not, but as a climber I have treed a few ursine cowboys who thought they could bag some of my chow. They're just dogs in the long and short...

Crockett got his, just like F*#kster.

Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:39am PT
Thanks This Just In. I love tracking and watching bears but have no interest in hurting them. Photographing bears is a lot of fun.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:42am PT
This bears serious discussion.

Where's Fossil Climber?

To the Batso Cave, Dingus!

That Wayne fella can find the old ranger!
m_jones

Trad climber
Carson City, NV
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:42am PT
About a year ago I received a call from the local division of wildlife. Their wildlife officer had been tracking a mountain lion with dogs that had been sighted in town. The dogs had chased the lion way up into the backcountry and had treed the lion. The dogs had gps collars so they knew where they were. I had in the past had keys to the state park gates and snow machines that I could have helped get the officers up to the dogs but I no longer had that access.

Seems that once a dog trees a cat the dogs will hang out and eventually fall asleep. Then cats have been known to come down and eat the dogs. Not sure how the story ended but the officers were a bit panicked and wishing they were a bit fitter!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:47am PT
Cali's can't hunt for the same reason they can't trad climb. All but a few grew up thinkin' it's a sport.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:48am PT
Following a dog while hunting, be it bears, lions, hogs, foxes or birds is one of my favorite pastimes. You end up in places you would never have been if it wasn't for the dogs. Up and down canyons and hollows through thickets you have to crawl through, then back through because they have changed direction and are two miles away in a few minutes.

It is amazing to watch a good hunting dog do its thing! I get the most enjoyment at watching the dogs work. It is an experience most will never see.

And one hell of a workout!
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climber
north fork
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:49am PT
Photographing bears is a lot of fun.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:50am PT
Tell us, how do y,all feel about hunting birds with dogs? Is there a distinction?
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:52am PT
At Q-Ball: And the kill, is that difficult as well? What power scope do you need to hit the broad side of a bruin from sixty feet?
thebravecowboy

Social climber
Colorado Plateau
Jan 5, 2014 - 11:53am PT
From this morning's paper - a tragedy begotten of piss-poor hunting tactics: http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/371828/222/Man-killed-in-hunting-accident-in-SW-Colorado

What a waste. Of coyotes and a young man.
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