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skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 6, 2013 - 10:49am PT
If Beltway Insiders' talk of the sequester has made your eyes glaze over so far, here's something that may make you open those eyes wide: This postponed and renamed Son of The Fiscal Cliff, which goes into effect March 1 if no action is taken to prevent it, may mean at least $7 million in cuts to California's National Parks, Monuments, Recreation Areas, and Historic Sites. That could mean no seasonal ranger hires, closed campgrounds, and limited visitor center hours.

It could also mean you have to drive a few extra hours to get to the other side of the Sierra Nevada until the snow melts: the cuts would mean no budget for Yosemite National Park to plow Route 120 over Tioga Pass.

http://www.kcet.org/socal/socal_wanderer/national-park/sequester-may-mean-huge-cuts-for-californias-national-parks.html

BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:58am PT
Things are tough all over.....no need to get extra pissed just because the proximity of the problem now creeps into NP's and might affect tuolumne. There are gads of non-nat'l park based places to climb.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:03am PT
skitch just thought I read that you named your son Fiscal Cliff.

Sorry just had two teeth pulled yesterday afternoon. It was a rough night.
WBraun

climber
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:04am PT
The Tioga pass road is never ever closed.

It's open year round always.

Sometimes though it's only impassable to a motor vehicle .......
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:09am PT
Seriously, anger accomplishes nothing that will make your dilemma better.

Look on the positive side, you might have the meadows to yourself when you skin in.

Or, you might be forced to find some cool new sh#t you've never seen on the eastside.

Bitching gets you nowhere. Seeing the positive in a situation gets you everywhere.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:12am PT
we DO NOT hold our reps to thier job..They HAVENT DONE it and now attempt to make the rest of america pay for thier inabilities.

Pettition to take CONGRESS' pay away till we have a budget.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:17am PT
Unfortunately it's unconstitutional for congress to have it's pay reduced, at least in the current term.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/264230/what-stops-us-suspending-congress-pay-er-constitution
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:18am PT
Brandon:anger accomplishes nothing

Then what's the point of Supertopo?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:19am PT
If the campground is closed maybe I'll find a whole extended family squatting in my secret tuolomne bivy site.
WBraun

climber
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:20am PT
Brandon: anger accomplishes nothing

Yes ... skitch has it right.

One can not eliminate anger.

If one tries, .... one becomes sterile ......
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:21am PT
Oh shush with that constitution stuff. Everyone here knows that.. Americans are born with an innate knowledge and complete perfect understanding of the constitution and all the founders intentions.

One party has declared political war on the executive and will do anything to destroy it.

We all will suffer a bit for it.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:22am PT
suspending membersí pay would blatantly violate the most recent amendment, the 27th Amendment, which ensures that changes to lawmakersí salaries cannot take effect until a new Congress convenes; the purpose of this is to prevent members from voting themselves a pay raise. (Of course, members can vote future Congresses a pay raise or reduction, knowing that most of them will be reelected.)

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:24am PT
Ok, it's political, I'm out.

I'm simply saying that with every negative thing, there is a positive aspect. I choose to see the positive.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:29am PT
I always thought that Caltrans cleared that road since it's a State Road. Too bad the state is broke as well. Hopefully a balance is found in the next few years, our country has been living a bit too high on the hog in my very humble opinion.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:58am PT
"I'm simply saying that with every negative thing, there is a positive aspect. I choose to see the positive."

Right on. The positive is that we are sinking into fiscal hell slower. However, we are still borrowing close to .40 cents of every dollar the government is spending, so plan on more of this or your kids will be in debtors prison all their lives....if it's not too late already.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Current debt per taxpayer as noted by the US Debt Clock is $147,000 and getting bigger daily. This is a dead end road, and no one knows how far it can be traveled before the true fiscal cliff is driven over. It's not a partisan issue other than the fact that both parties Presidents since Clinton are driving the bus towards the cliff.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
maybe if we didn't give away so much money in Corporate welfare, we would have enough money to pay for the things that Gov is supposed to do

LIke sit on their azzes and wait for retirement?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 6, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
maybve if we DIDNT finnance every third world shythole on the planet we could take care of ourselves. Thank obummer for that.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 6, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
Credit: lostinshanghai
gunsmoke

Mountain climber
Clackamas, Oregon
Mar 6, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
maybe if we didn't give away so much money in Corporate welfare, we would have enough money to pay for the things that Gov is supposed to do
Corporations are contributing as much to the fed budget as ever. The problem isn't one of revenue.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 6, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
yer being played!



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