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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 6, 2013 - 10:49am PT
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If Beltway Insiders' talk of the sequester has made your eyes glaze over so far, here's something that may make you open those eyes wide: This postponed and renamed Son of The Fiscal Cliff, which goes into effect March 1 if no action is taken to prevent it, may mean at least $7 million in cuts to California's National Parks, Monuments, Recreation Areas, and Historic Sites. That could mean no seasonal ranger hires, closed campgrounds, and limited visitor center hours.
It could also mean you have to drive a few extra hours to get to the other side of the Sierra Nevada until the snow melts: the cuts would mean no budget for Yosemite National Park to plow Route 120 over Tioga Pass.
http://www.kcet.org/socal/socal_wanderer/national-park/sequester-may-mean-huge-cuts-for-californias-national-parks.html
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Things are tough all over.....no need to get extra pissed just because the proximity of the problem now creeps into NP's and might affect tuolumne. There are gads of non-nat'l park based places to climb.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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skitch just thought I read that you named your son Fiscal Cliff.
Sorry just had two teeth pulled yesterday afternoon. It was a rough night.
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WBraun
climber
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The Tioga pass road is never ever closed.
It's open year round always.
Sometimes though it's only impassable to a motor vehicle .......
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Seriously, anger accomplishes nothing that will make your dilemma better.
Look on the positive side, you might have the meadows to yourself when you skin in.
Or, you might be forced to find some cool new sh#t you've never seen on the eastside.
Bitching gets you nowhere. Seeing the positive in a situation gets you everywhere.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:18am PT
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Brandon:anger accomplishes nothing
Then what's the point of Supertopo?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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If the campground is closed maybe I'll find a whole extended family squatting in my secret tuolomne bivy site.
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WBraun
climber
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Brandon: anger accomplishes nothing
Yes ... skitch has it right.
One can not eliminate anger.
If one tries, .... one becomes sterile ......
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oh shush with that constitution stuff. Everyone here knows that.. Americans are born with an innate knowledge and complete perfect understanding of the constitution and all the founders intentions.
One party has declared political war on the executive and will do anything to destroy it.
We all will suffer a bit for it.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:22am PT
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suspending members’ pay would blatantly violate the most recent amendment, the 27th Amendment, which ensures that changes to lawmakers’ salaries cannot take effect until a new Congress convenes; the purpose of this is to prevent members from voting themselves a pay raise. (Of course, members can vote future Congresses a pay raise or reduction, knowing that most of them will be reelected.)
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Ok, it's political, I'm out.
I'm simply saying that with every negative thing, there is a positive aspect. I choose to see the positive.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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I always thought that Caltrans cleared that road since it's a State Road. Too bad the state is broke as well. Hopefully a balance is found in the next few years, our country has been living a bit too high on the hog in my very humble opinion.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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"I'm simply saying that with every negative thing, there is a positive aspect. I choose to see the positive."
Right on. The positive is that we are sinking into fiscal hell slower. However, we are still borrowing close to .40 cents of every dollar the government is spending, so plan on more of this or your kids will be in debtors prison all their lives....if it's not too late already.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Current debt per taxpayer as noted by the US Debt Clock is $147,000 and getting bigger daily. This is a dead end road, and no one knows how far it can be traveled before the true fiscal cliff is driven over. It's not a partisan issue other than the fact that both parties Presidents since Clinton are driving the bus towards the cliff.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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maybe if we didn't give away so much money in Corporate welfare, we would have enough money to pay for the things that Gov is supposed to do
LIke sit on their azzes and wait for retirement?
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gunsmoke
Mountain climber
Clackamas, Oregon
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maybe if we didn't give away so much money in Corporate welfare, we would have enough money to pay for the things that Gov is supposed to do Corporations are contributing as much to the fed budget as ever. The problem isn't one of revenue.
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John M
climber
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yer being played!
so are you..
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Best.Comeback.Ever.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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It's a 4.5% reduction of a raise in spending!
No draconian cuts are happening!
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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And yet you insist Obama is inflicting maximum pain.
Who is receiving this 'maximum' pain?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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BTW TGT, your numbers don't add up, no surprise.
The federal deficit is going down by about 400 billion this year, not up.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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I wrote this for my Facebook Page on March 1st;
Starting today, all peaks over 13,500' high, in Sierra National Parks, will be sequestered, transferred, and stored in warehouses in Modesto, Fresno, Lone Pine, and Bishop. Below, a Bell Helicopter flying in to sequester Mt Whitney. Due to limited space in the Owens Valley, Mt Whitney will be stored at the Laws Railroad Museum in Bishop.
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MisterE
Social climber
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M@TH3R FU#K3R
My father was one...
just sayin'
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LilaBiene
Trad climber
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Hey, I say we lobby hard to get the national debt laws changed so that they parallel the student debt laws.
Student can't repay loans? Not to worry. The banks will just wait, accruing interest for years...and then garnish the former student's Social Security Check (that's of course AFTER ruining said student's credit score and ability to find gainful employment).
Congress can't do the math to figure out how to pay its bills? The American people can demand that any outstanding debt incurred during the Congressional terms in which a member served be subtracted from the pension, Social Security, health care and other benefits accrued by the member.
Congress passed laws enabling public companies to back out of their promised pension and health care benefits. Why can't the American people demand the same of Congress if they're bankrupting the Nation?
No need to comment on the wildly impractical proposals. Just felt good to get a good rant out.
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dogtown
Trad climber
Cheyenne, Wyoming and Marshall Islands atoll.
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Let's just kick out the GOP and make it a one party country? Getting rid of the house Republicans is what its all about anyway so in 2014 he can finish changing this country into something only he can Recognize. With less rights more goverment control higher taxes for all and the abolishment of Presidential term limits.
Oh sorry that doesn't happen till 2016. Obama for the King!!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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I hear there's an opening in Venezuela.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Has anyone told Terrible Herbst?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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After years of involvement I left the political scene 5 years ago. I pray more often now but put my money and energy into actually fixing things on a personal, one on one level.
If I'm wrong please school me, but I think that the reason they take money from the parks is because they know we all love them so we'll kick in personally to keep them open.
Why oh Why do we allow two groups of politicos to determine our lives and our futures?
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