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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 20, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
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Before the white man invaded Yosemite in 1851, did the Indians that lived there climb the walls? Does anyone have any scholarly evidence of Indians climbing?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jan 20, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
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Stemming in a loincloth sure would be exposed...
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jan 20, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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Yes, the Native Americans had several ways into and out of the Valley which included Climbing. Indian Cyn near the clinic is one way and I believe the Ledge Trail was another way out of the Valley. . .
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Floyd Hayes
Trad climber
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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Jan 20, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
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Here is scholarly evidence that they ground up food for eating a picnic lunch on the summit of Lost Arrow Spire:
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 20, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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Chief Kauk climbs .....
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Jan 20, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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From atop Lower Brother:
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Jan 21, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 21, 2012 - 08:37pm PT
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Of course they climbed. The only question is this: was it just a practical pursuit, for getting from point a to point b quickly? Or was it sometimes done for fun?
I like to think that maybe the younger folk did it for the pure joy of it. Remember Robbin's classic intro to "Basic Rockcraft? "A boy clambers up a tree, 'why' dosen't matter..." Just like that.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 21, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
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If you have time, stop by the museum in the village. They often have a local Native American on set to chat up any thing you want.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 21, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
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I don't know about the Valley, but a few years ago here in JT I came across a little place 'neath some boulders which I am fiarly certain was someone's digs. I sat for some time, and came to the conclusion I was in a sort of doctor's office. The rocks are set up in a way that one is "the patient's chair" - almost like a chaise lounge. Next to the raised leg area is a seat for doc, and across is several seats, for the worried family.
As I sat there, and those thoughts came, I felt myself wondering what sorts of illness' the docotr would treat, and what I got back, very clearly, was "We get a lot of broken legs," and an image of the young boys scrambling the rocks and doing jump-accross' as feats of daring. Definitely play/competition.
Of course, maybe I am just imagining the whole thing.
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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Interesting shots on the cliffs.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Stemming in a loincloth sure would be exposed...
No worse than climbing in a kilt.
You know why they call a kilt and not a skirt?
Cause if you call it a skirt I'd have to kilt you.
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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I just wonder why they would be up on the cliffs leaching acorns, which I guess is what the holes in the stone are for.
Plaid and OntheEdge crack me up, as it were...
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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My guess is no. They would not have had much time or inclination to climb up big walls.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 24, 2013 - 06:11am PT
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My supposition is yes. The men got bored and needed to get away for the afternoon.
The ladies are engaged making buckskin anyway.
"Let's go up there and shoot arrows down here. Use this little pot basket for a target. Closest to the hole. Loser has to run to Fern Spring and bring back some water..."
"You better bring more arrows, Marmot-face."
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Apr 24, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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of course they did. but those are solution pockets not grindholes. probably used them as chalk buckets though.
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steve shea
climber
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Apr 24, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
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Lessee, the Enclosure on the Grand, the Shohsone Highway in the Winds, Anasazi in the desert, the Medicine Wheel in the Bighorns and I'm sure more. These examples are not on walls but they are high, in the mts and you would not want to fall off the trail on most.
Seems like the Athabascan brothers worshiped the high places and had to get up there to some extent.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 24, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
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Stemming in a loincloth sure would be exposed...
That's why the Squaws always led the tribe.
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Apr 24, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
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I donated an arrowhead with a broken tip to the archaeogist at the Inyo National Forest that I found off-trail at 11,500ft. below Southfork Pass in the Palisades & was told that it was one of the highest that has been found.Has anyone else found any Native-American artifacts in the High Sierra ?
John Fischer once found a big sheep skull with a full horn rack in the Palisades.Has anyone ever found one in the High Sierra ?
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