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Sketch

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Not FortMental
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:16pm PT


http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/evg/4669216880.html

The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:26pm PT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH

Sep 21, 2014 - 11:50am PT

In the meantime, NOAA just updated their global surface temperature index, agreeing that this August was the warmest on record..

There ya go again Larry, telling them verbiage twisting fibs again....

Globally, the average land surface temperature was the second highest on record for August behind only 1998 , at 0.99C (1.78F) above the 20th century average.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/8



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monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:32pm PT


Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH

Sep 21, 2014 - 11:50am PT

In the meantime, NOAA just updated their global surface temperature index, agreeing that this August was the warmest on record..


There ya go again Larry, telling them verbiage twisting fibs again....



There ya go again Chief, showing off your poor reading comprehension again....
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
Impressive reading compression the chief. Is your problem that you don't understand that the oceans have a surface?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
monolith

climber
SF bay area

Sep 21, 2014 - 12:32pm PT


Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH

Sep 21, 2014 - 11:50am PT

In the meantime, NOAA just updated their global surface temperature index, agreeing that this August was the warmest on record..


Sketch wrote, then hastily deleted:



There ya go again Larry, telling them semantic fibs again....

Globally, the average land surface temperature was the second highest on record for August behind only 1998 , at 0.99C (1.78F) above the 20th century average.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/8


There ya go again Sketch, showing off your poor reading comprehension again....

And you are ragging on someones reading comprehension??


s your problem that you don't understand that the oceans have a surface?


Really... you missed the critical part of my statement.

Here, I will try again...

There ya go again Larry, telling them semantic fibs again....
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
Ya got me their, Chief, you guys sound so much alike.

Now can you tell us if the globe has oceans which also contribute global temps?

Globally, the average land surface temperature was the second highest on record for August behind only 1998 , at 0.99C (1.78F) above the 20th century average.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:45pm PT
Do we have go over this semantical propaganda perpetuating bullshet, AGAIN?


The data bank that goes back past 1951 for the world's SST's is about as accurate as your insistent propaganda posting MONO.

To fairly state that they are as accurate and widespread today as they were dating back past 1951, is pure semantical bullshet.

As are the land surface temps accuracy due to their pre-historic technology and level of quality due to prescribed levels of calibrations etc.

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!

raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:49pm PT

Really... you missed the critical part of my statement.

No I did not miss it but I really don't understand why you wrote it. I guess it is because you are totally clueless as usual.

People usually care most about the global surface temperature. This temperature both include the land and ocean surfaces. Chiloe pointed out something about that temperature. He was correct about that according to the link you posted.

You on the other hand seems to think that the land surface are more important or that you don't know what a surface is.
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
I see that the chief completely changed his post and is now rambling about something else.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
You clowns are so brainwashed by all this AGW bullshet.

FOOOOOLE, are you going to state the accuracy of the "RECORD" data back beyond 1951 for both Land and SST temps is as accurate today as it was back then when they had NO SAT technology nor were the instruments any where near as advanced as they are today. Nor were there as many collection locations back then as there are today.

Yeah the NOAA and GISS etal have "HOMOGENIZED" the data. Who has QA'd and audited their "HOMOGENIZED" data? Who?


This is who.... NO ONE!


The amount of collection stations both at sea and on land back beyond 1935 is over 1/2 less than today. And those instruments are as pre-historic as is Fred Beckey with Maint/Calibration cycles that were nill to none.

This "RECORD" verbiage is all one big fking joke as it's level of true accuracy is one big farce at best.
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
Changing the subject once again... instead of admitting that you didn't now that the oceans are included in the surface temps.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
Changing the subject once again... instead of admitting that you didn't now that the oceans are included in the surface temps.

REALLY?


Hmmm...

With records dating back to 1880, the global temperature across the world's land and ocean surfaces for August 2014 was 0.75C (1.35F) higher than the 20th century average of 15.6C (60.1F). This makes August 2014 the warmest August on record for the globe since records began in 1880, beating the previous record set in 1998. Nine of the 10 warmest Augusts on record have occurred during the 21st century. Additionally, August 2014 marked the 38th consecutive August with a temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average global temperature for August occurred in 1976. The departure from average for the month was also record high for the Northern Hemisphere, at 0.92C (1.66F) above average. The Southern Hemisphere temperature was 0.56C (1.01F) above average, the fourth highest on record for this part of the world.


Globally, the average land surface temperature was the second highest on record for August behind only 1998, at 0.99C (1.78F) above the 20th century average. Warmer than average temperatures were evident over most of the global land surfaces, except for parts of the United States and western Europe, northern Siberia, parts of eastern Asia and much of central Australia stretching north. Overall, 26 countries across every continent except Antarctica had at least one station reporting a record high temperature for August. The United States and the Russian Federation each had stations that reported record warm temperatures as well as at least one station with a record cold temperature for the month. One station in Antarctica also reported a record cold August temperature for its 30-year period of record. The period of record varies by station.

The average August temperature for the global oceans was record high for the month, at 0.65C (1.17F) above the 20th century average, beating the previous record set in 2005 by 0.08C (0.14F). It was also the highest departure from average for any month in the 135-year record, beating the previous record set just two months ago in June 2014 by 0.03C (0.05F). Record warmth was observed across much of the central and western equatorial Pacific along with sections scattered across the eastern Pacific and regions of the western Indian Ocean, particularly notable in the waters east of Madagascar. After cooling briefly in July, ocean temperatures in the Nio 3.4 regionthe area where ENSO conditions are monitoredbegan warming once again. NOAA's Climate Prediction Center estimates that there is a 6065 percent chance that El Nio conditions will develop during the Northern Hemisphere fall and winter. This forecast focuses on the ocean surface temperatures between 5N and 5S latitude and 170W to 120W longitude.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/8

Maybe you best go back to school and learn how to read.


Like I said, it is all a twist of verbiage.
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
But it is of course interesting logic used.

1. The claim was that august 2014 was the warmest on record.

2. The chief said something about semantics and linked to a source that showed that 1. was true but that also said that the land surface temp were higher 1998.

3. People say that the chief can't read.

4. The chief continue with implying that the 2014 record is not really a record due to some bad measurements in 1930 or something like that.

The question is now why did the chief cite a source that said that 2014 were only the second warmest year after 1998 when he now seems to suggest that the 1930 were actually warmer?
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:07pm PT

Maybe you best go back to school and learn how to read.

O sh#t, are you back at trying to argue that global surface temperature do not include the ocean surface?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
You really are one ass sucking sheep PHOOOOOOOOOLE. Seriously.


Twist the verbiage and accuracy of all the data going back to 1880 and you get the current day fear mongering homogenized AGW propaganda.

raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:10pm PT
A new edit to make it really clear that you can't read and understand a simple concept as surface temperature? Impressive.
raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:16pm PT

Like I said, it is all a twist of verbiage.

Like everyone above the age of 5 except you have no problem to understand.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
simple concept as surface temperature?

Oh, it is by far a "simple concept".


The LAND TEMPS are actual atmospheric readings above the surface of the stations.

The OCEAN TEMPS are readings of the ocean liquid surface and NOT the actual atmospheric temps directly above them as are the LAND TEMPS.

Sea surface temperature (SST) is the water temperature close to the ocean's surface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_surface_temperature

Two completely different entities. One actual atmospheric temp readings and the other liquid temps. A twist of Verbiage at it's best. The GISS (Hansen) knew precisely what he was doing when he incorporated the two as one back in 1999. And the accuracy of them SST's downgrades to complete bullshet prior to the current SAT and Bouy deployments that began in the 1960's.

raymond phule

climber
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:30pm PT

Oh, it is by far a "simple concept".


The LAND TEMPS are actual atmospheric readings.

The OCEAN TEMPS are readings of the ocean liquid surface and NOT the actual atmospheric temps directly above them as is the LAND TEMPS.

LOL, are you really sure that is the method used? Did you came up with that "understanding" by yourself or did you read it somewhere?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 21, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
hmmm... maybe just take a look at temps measured at sea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_buoy

I had to... kind of simple to find these days, this sort of info..

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