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The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 10:35am PT
The Chief, you are twisting my point and my words to fit your agenda.

And what may my agenda be, Kman??


it means that you are not attempting to have a rational conversation.

You and your friends here have repeatedly shown that the only way to achieve any "rational conversation" is to surrender to and then agree with your stance/ideology. Otherwise the conversation is not a worthy one in terms of being rational.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2014 - 10:52am PT
You and your friends here have repeatedly shown that the only way to achieve any "rational conversation" is to surrender to and then agree with your stance/ideology. Otherwise the conversation is not a worthy one in terms of being rational.

This is so far from the truth that the only response it deserves is one that calls out the fallacy of the argument.
The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 11:00am PT
Nice cover response, Kman!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



And what is my agenda, Kman?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 12, 2014 - 11:29am PT
So far you've explained that you have a high carbon lifestyle & you don't believe the science.
My view is that the former causes the latter.

Maybe your view is right, but it's just a guess.
Those of us who point out that there's something fishy in that people like Al Gore and Bono have an ultra-high carbon lifestyle (we can only guess as to how many orders of magnitude greater than the lifestyle of any ST poster) but also allegedly "believe the science" -- we're roundly mocked for, uh, I'm not sure, but we're roundly mocked for something!

To simplify: leading an ultra-high carbon lifestyle (let's say at least being a 1%er) is completely consistent with being a climate change doom-and-gloomer activist, so there does not seem to be any basis for your expressed view.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
they might even accuse the explainer of being "a clown."

What's ironic is such folk don't often understand how much of their sh#t splashes right back on them, such as OCD internet psychologists. I have been clear since the very inception of this thread.

Its not may fault some johnny come f*#king lately with his panties in a wad lecturing me about ethics can't see himself in his carnival mirror.

DMT

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
Someone needs to give that Al Gore an ethics lesson!

DMT
The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
OMG... we are going to all perish.

Global sea surface temperatures from pole to pole were a whopping 0.02 deg C higher in (Dec to Nov) 2014 than they were in (Dec to Nov) 1998. That’s read two one-hundredths of a deg C.
NOAA’s ERSST.v3b


You have got to be seriously kidding. How do you even record such a temperature. Does that even exist as far as reality goes.



I can see the AGW hysteria headlines now based on two one hundredths of degree difference in SST's.

"2014 is the Warmest year ever recorded!"
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
Once again, the point here is that we are proceeding to deal with the climate in exactly the same way, though with larger consequences. I think DMT's position is justifiable,

To depersonalize it once more (sigh), its not my position.

It is humanity's position.

The self appointed spokespeople have failed thus far convincing the world to give up their own, rather than to prompt others to give up something on their behalf.

DMT
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:14pm PT
To depersonalize it once more (sigh), its not my position.
True, yet you are trying to justify it, you spokesperson you ;-)

It is humanity's position.
Not all,
not the poor that don't pollute CO2 but will suffer the most,
not the science literate,
not the ones that are willing to make a small sacrifice for their children
The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
not the ones that are willing to make a small sacrifice for their children

Talk about a pure strawman cry.


"If we were to miraculously cut C02 emissions down to zero right now, it would NOT have any affect on the current climate change momentum for at least four maybe five hundred years."
NOAA
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
Malemute, nice reply.

Thanks :)

DMT
The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
Why should we waste our time Brucee. You will only deny it is logical according your warped and totally depleted standards.











Better yet, do your homework.
Stevee B

Trad climber
Oakland, CA
Dec 12, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
FWIW, "CAGW" isn't a valid concept in the first place, it's a climate science denier perjorative intended to cloud the issue.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Dec 12, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
Careful, Ahura. Excrement pics are The Chief's domain.
The Chief

climber
Smiling at all you angry& negative blinded Sheep
Dec 12, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
Stevee B

Trad climber
Oakland, CA

Dec 12, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
FWIW, "CAGW" isn't a valid concept in the first place

Neither is this entire issue/thread for that matter.


I see old worthless Glanton/Ahura is back. Good to see the CAGW crowd here have their grand contributor return.

Priceless.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 12, 2014 - 05:13pm PT
If it did happen it would be great!

I'd own beachfront property!



in the meantime;

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/12/12/if-all-you-see-1341/

Then speaking of dicks and turds, the Greenpeas Environazis engaged in this bit of vandalism.



No, that's not Photoshopped!

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 12, 2014 - 07:08pm PT
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/travel/greenpeace-nazca-lines-damage/index.html
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Dec 12, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
They trespassed near the glyph, not on it.
I don't see any evidence that they "destroyed" anything,
except giving deniers more ammunition to distract from the real issues.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/greenpeace-damages-delicate-nazca-lines-peru-article-1.2042861
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Dec 12, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
There is no pause in overall heat imbalance.
Global warming continues despite continuous denial.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-continues-despite-continuous-denial.html
http://reports.ncse.com/index.php/rncse/article/view/332/583
excerpt:
In order to measure how fast the planet is heating, we can measure the difference in incoming and outgoing energy at the top of the atmosphere (just like keeping track of a bank account by comparing deposits to withdrawals). Another way to measure a warming planet is to simply to measure how much energy is stored within the planet’s climate (like watching the balance of a bank account). Both methods should give the same answer. If you have more deposits than withdrawals to a bank account, you will see your balance increase.

Fortunately both of these methods, when used by climate scientists, tell the same story. The Earth is out of balance; we are gaining 0.5 – 1 Watts per square meter of area.
Degaine

climber
Dec 13, 2014 - 03:16am PT
The Chief wrote:
ISIS in NOT a theory. At least it isn't to the over 30K that have been slaughtered in the past year by them it isn't.

Citation for that number? Every death at the hands of ISIS is clearly tragic, but the UN report estimates around 8000 killed and 22000 injured. A 3-fold exaggeration on your part.

You're part of a group on this forum that keeps ginning up the hysteria to what amounts to a regional threat and not at all a serious threat to the US or the rest of the world.

To use your past argument and reasoning,far more people die in car accidents or due to cancer per year in the US than at the hands of ISIS. Your hysteria about ISIS is in the exact same vein as the hysteria you criticize regarding AGW.
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