Climate Change skeptics? [ot]

As for lack of money, I disagree. Unfortunately, this government will willingly spend millions for each goatherd they kill in the middle-east, yet working to improve America and the lives of Americans is out of the question to them.

I put it to you, Chief, that it is the government's job to promote the general welfare, and that "greening" America is what it should be doing.

I agree about that general welfare bit Gary but look at how easily our fellow travelers jumped all over Libya. Democrats are no different then republicans, left no better than the right, when it comes to starting wars for other people to fight.

The business of America is war.

Democrats are no different then republicans, left no better than the right, when it comes to starting wars for other people to fight.

The business of America is war.

Chief, we're not broke, not at all. How many homes could we "solarize" for each cruise missile we launch to wipe out a wedding party?

That "boat" you served on, how many schools could be built or expanded for each day that thing is in operation?

For that matter, just what navy is it we are so afraid of that we need a navy of our size?

How many kids ya got Dirt?? Ya got a mortgage? You unemployed or making min wage cus your job got shipped over to China.

Answer up?

All this stuff I blah blah blah about are all issues that most of the "skeptics" base their dogma on.

And not one of you has a real world solution for the millions and millions of people throughout the world that are living in a constant day to day financial survival mode. Not one.

Explain it to them millions of financially hurting and hungry folks throughout the world DIRT. Not me.

Are you aware that 1 out of every 10 children in the US of A are homeless and if lucky get one maybe two meals a day in school. Tell them kids that they should do their part to stop AGW. And what is the general HS and teen preg drop out rate at these days? Tell them kids that they gotta do their part for AGW.

Most if not all of the worlds gov't's are corrupt. The very ones that you demand need to fix this shet.

Not one of you PhD's and Science Intellects and Liberal way of gotta save the world fanatics factor any of these real life deals into your modeling processes. All ya do is continue throwing out all this consensus scientific data out and boost the feeding frenzy amongst one eachother.

Next time you are out in the real world and see a homeless hungry kid and/or their parent/s, go on up to them with all this AGW modeling data and ask them what they think about it all.

In fact, the total number of scientists represented in the report is 12 times the number of U.N. scientists who authored the official IPCC 2007 report.

Here are some choice excerpts from the report:

* "I am a skeptic ... . Global warming has become a new religion." -- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

* "Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly ... . As a scientist I remain skeptical." -- Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called "among the most pre-eminent scientists of the last 100 years."

* Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history ... . When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." -- U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.

* "The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn't listen to others. It doesn't have open minds ... . I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists." -- Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the U.N.-supported International Year of the Planet.

* "The models and forecasts of the U.N. IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity." -- Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.

* "It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." -- U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

* "Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapor and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will." -- Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, New Zealand.

* "After reading [U.N. IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet." -- Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an associate editor of Monthly Weather Review.

* "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" -- Geologist Dr. David Gee, the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer-reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

* "Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp ... . Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact." -- Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch U.N. IPCC committee.

* "Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined." -- Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh, Pa.

* "Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense ... . The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning." -- Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

* "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another ... . Every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so ... . Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver's seat and developing nations walking barefoot." -- Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

* "The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds." -- Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

bluering you don't even know what a "solar-ray" is (and neither do I, you've seriously misunderstood whatever you were reading)... why would you pick that over a more likely cause?

I love the Google toolbar. In that post above by Bluering, which has all of those quotes, you just drag your cursor over a few sentences and it takes you straigh to here: