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shut up and pull

climber
Jul 21, 2014 - 11:37am PT
Global warming has stopped ... opposite of the fascists' computer model predictions.
shut up and pull

climber
Jul 21, 2014 - 11:39am PT
When the empirical evidence is in conflict with the computer predictions ... Real scientists admit that their models are wrong.
shut up and pull

climber
Jul 21, 2014 - 11:45am PT
"Climate change" = nothing but the most massive redistribution of wealth scheme ever. Fight the fascists.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 21, 2014 - 11:49am PT
Shutupandpull...I agree those irritating Prius owners and their 50MPG make owning a Humvee impossible...Dicks..rj
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jul 21, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
Just a quick note today. Artic sea ice has actually increased over the last two days as a low pressure system covered wide regions of the area.

Who told you that? I watch the U Illinois time series of Arctic sea ice area, which is generally the reference. Over the past 10 days it has declined by 44,000 to 176,000 square kilometers every day.

This is unusual, but not unprecedented for this time of the melt season.

Far as I can see it did not happen, but if it had that would not be so unusual. About 1 increasing day for each 10 decreasing days in July over the full run of these data.

Something more real: NCDC just released their June global temperatures, turns out to be the warmest June on record (since 1880). That follows after the warmest May on record in the same data. Which follows the 2nd-warmest April, and the 4th-warmest March...since at least 1880.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jul 21, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
Something more scientific, which goes directly to that talking point that none of the denialists here can think past. A new paper in Nature Climate Change, by Risby et al. The usual blog suspects are flailing to "rebut" this one already, without seeming to have read it. But essentially this paper confirms what a number of other studies using different methods have found too: the circulatory patterns associated with ENSO (and ocean/atmosphere heat exchange) have to be realistically considered to understand the surface temperature data.
Well-estimated global surface warming in climate pr ojectionsselected for ENSO phase

The question of how climate model projections have tracked the actual evolution of global mean surface air temperature is important in establishing the credibility of their projections. Some studies and the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report suggest that the recent 15-year period (1998–2012) provides evidence that models are overestimating current temperature evolution. Such comparisons are not evidence against model trends because they represent only one realization where the decadal natural variability component of the model climate is generally not in phase with observations. We present a more appropriate test of models where only those models with natural variability (represented by El Niño/Southern Oscillation) largely in phase with observations are selected from multi-model ensembles for comparison with observations. These tests show that climate models have provided good estimates of 15-year trends, including for recent periods and for Pacific spatial trend patterns.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Global warming has stopped ... opposite of the fascists' computer model predictions.

Brilliant.




Headline: The World Just Had Its Hottest June On Record

wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jul 21, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
Yep,http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2014/07/21/june-was-hottest-on-record/
tro4130

climber
San Diego, CA
Jul 21, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
Credit: tro4130

The island of skepticism is getting smaller and smaller...
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 22, 2014 - 09:54pm PT
That quote is attributable to Jack Kerouac, not Beck dumbfuk.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 22, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
That quote is attributable to Jack Kerouac, not Beck dumbfuk.
Credit: Wade Icey

Kerouac would kick your ass in a new jersey minute, dumbfuk. while beck would likely fondle it.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 22, 2014 - 10:28pm PT
Okay, ill concede Beck as the originator. I apologize to Mr Beck and his uncommon wit.
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Jul 23, 2014 - 04:39am PT
"At either end of the social spectrum is a leisure class."
~Eric Beck
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jul 23, 2014 - 07:32am PT
Lol oh like he invented it! ;D

DMT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jul 25, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/las-vegas-climate-change-denial-brendan-montague-101


Equal time.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2014 - 11:20am PT
Great, Sketch once again posting climate change "debunking." This is a great video of lemmings eating up Heartland Institute gruel.

From wilbeer's post above:

I attended their 2012 conference of the Heartland Institute, an oil and tobacco funded free market think tank that spends a lot of time and effort trying to call bullshit on what is clearly not bullshit – the science of climate change.

Sketch, did you post that because you believe what they're saying, or just to troll (again)?


I have to wonder, why do all your posts have the same slant, when you like to pretend that your posts don't actually covey your point of view?

The very first quote from the video you posted is bunk; why do you post such BS:

In the last 18 years, there hasn't been even a slight rise in temperature.


My hunch is that you eat this stuff up like it was top sirloin.
socialclimber

climber
CA
Jul 26, 2014 - 02:09pm PT
The Onion had a beautiful article on this today:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-climate-change-skeptics-could-reach-catastr,36521/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:2:Default

Dist. of climate change deniers in US.
Dist. of climate change deniers in US.
Credit: The Onion

Charles
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2014 - 08:12am PT
Study: 'Shocking' Water Loss in Western U.S.

Satellites show groundwater supply at greater risk than previously thought


The drought-stricken Colorado River Basin has experienced rapid and significant groundwater depletion since late 2004, posing a greater threat to the water supply of the western United States than previously thought, according to a new study by NASA and University of California, Irvine.

The research team used data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) satellite mission to track changes in the mass of the Colorado River Basin, which is the water source for more than 30 million people and 4 million acres of farmland. The satellites showed the basin lost nearly 53 million acre feet (about 17 trillion gallons) of freshwater between 2004-2013 — almost double the volume of the nation's largest reservoir, Nevada's Lake Mead, which itself recently fell to its lowest level since the 1930s. More than three-quarters of the total water loss in the Colorado River Basin was from groundwater. The basin has been experiencing the driest 14-year period in the last 100 years.


Where's The Chief; we need him here to tell us, "There is no drought."
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 27, 2014 - 11:58am PT
Where's The Chief

probably drilling a new well...
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jul 27, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
Just returned from a field trip to northeastern Oregon, where economic and environmental changes (including insect and fire risks to the forests) are a serious concern. I'd heard there were climate connections but hadn't seen the data, so I sat outside one evening, built a dataset, and drew a few graphs. The results were unexpectedly striking. Here are fire-season temperatures in our study region, on a century scale,



and a closer view of just the last few decades,

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