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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Mar 5, 2014 - 10:08am PT
Are you denying (snip) climate geo-engineering actually exists?

Nope. I am denying the present west coast drought was the result of geo-engineering, (much less a conspiracy!).

Laughable.

Utterly laughable.

Defend away nwo2....

DMT
dirtbag

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 10:24am PT
Conspiracy theories are like religious fundamentalism. There is always a great man or men, out of sight, pulling the strings, working in mysterious ways for mysterious purposes, that explains everything.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:37am PT
Unless you are getting paid to provide misinformation and misdirect the discussion, it's pretty much a waste of your time to peruse this thread if you haven't already watched the two presentations posted above and referenced here again:

really?

chem-trails and the ionosphere as the determinant of the weather/climate?

got anything in the science literature to support those contentions?
the YouTube videos don't do it for me...

yes, really

did you take the time to study what is being said in the videos, or are you reacting based upon thinking you already know enough to have an opinion

people have been well trained to stop thinking when they hear the trigger phrase 'conspiracy theory'

it seems this thread is based upon more heat than light

the posted videos contain a great deal of substantive information...so people are clearly not taking the time to view them

do your homework before voicing an opinion

for the first time you make me wonder about your diligence as a scientist
WBraun

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:39am PT
Thank God for people like Tom Cochrane.

They're very rare in this day and age.

Soon you'll have nothing but sheep ......
WBraun

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:42am PT
Shut yer stupid trap fort nutcase.

No one is screaming but you .....
raymond phule

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:50am PT

did you take the time to study what is being said in the videos, or are you reacting based upon thinking you already know enough to have an opinion

No, as I said, I got bored after 12 minutes of the second one. I also started to see the first one (at the time were the link started) and the first part was just personal attacks against scientists so I didn't see any further.

I much rather read or skim an article than using 2 hours to look through youtube videos.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:50am PT
do your homework before voicing an opinion
Homework consists of finding relevant peer reviewed papers in respected scientific journals. Youtube videos do not count.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Mar 5, 2014 - 11:56am PT
Homework consists of finding relevant peer reviewed papers in respected scientific journals. Youtube videos do not count.

wrong


relevant peer reviewed papers are tightly controlled by the establishment and are enforcing the suppression of information about heavily funded black programs


you can lead the sheeple to knowledge, but you can't make them think

just call it 'conspiracy theory' and they won't touch it
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
relevant peer reviewed papers are tightly controlled by the establishment and are enforcing the suppression of information about heavily funded black programs...you can lead the sheeple to knowledge, but you can't make them think

Oh you've done it now Tom. A clear bullseye has been in placed.


Spot on btw... Spot on!!
WBraun

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
Malemute's argument that all the peers are correct.

Jesus Christ walked into a room of 100 blind men and said there is "Light".

All the blind men have been agreeing since forever their world is dark.

When Jesus Christ said there is "Light" they immediately claimed he was false and wrong and then killed him ...... :-)
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
A top secret black-ops genetic engineering project gone horribly wrong is responsible for the accidental release of a stunted mutant running amok deep in the California desert.

Look it up!

Reminds me of a novel I once read, with an Irish Setter that could crush you at chess. Or something...

It was a rewriting of Shelly's Frankenstein, of course.

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Mar 5, 2014 - 09:11am PT
geoengineering- you can look it up on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineering

Wiki is now "SCIENCE LITERATURE".

Nice one EDH.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:17pm PT
EDH,

Where is the peer reviewed "science literature" that you have that disproves Tom's claim?

Opinions and WIKI are NOT peer reviewed science literature.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
mostly because attempts to modify weather (e.g. "cloud seeding") are unsubstantiated, to say it is effective you have to measure the difference between seeding and not-seeding, and more specifically, if you propose a particular "seed" you have to show its efficacy vs. other possible seeds and doing nothing. As many of you point out, the accuracy of weather prediction and particularly precipitation forecasts, are not so good, and so the anecdotal stories of successful cloud seeding are, by and large, not substantiated by actual science experiments.

Meanwhile Marc Mondavi of THAT wine family in Napa Valley, is out well witching for fun and profit.







DMT
dirtbag

climber
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:27pm PT
Thanks for the laughs guys!
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:27pm PT
i am not particularly interested in defending a position

i only stepped into this thread because i thought the two posted videos were worthy of your time and attention

if you folks aren't going to take the time to study them, i am not interested in contributing to the noise level around the campfire
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
I watched the videos, in part.

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
That is one BADASS MOFO!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TFPU FUKEDBRAINMENTAL!!!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:37pm PT
Here is the most relevant quote i've seen in the latest discussion, "unless you are getting paid to provide misinformation". You gotta ask yourself, what kind of government scientist job description includes work hours defense of CAGW on blogs like this. Fort, Ed H., etc. etc.?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 5, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
Do we need a refresher on the makeup of the atmosphere?
The troposhpere contains approximately 80% of the atmosphere's mass and 99% of its water vapour and aerosols.

Above that is the stratosphere, the mesosphere, and then the ionosphere.
How the phuk could the ionosphere meaningfully affect the troposphere?
The gap between them is about 42 MILES!!!!!! Get real!
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