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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan

Jan 12, 2014 - 08:37am PT
My god, the taliban chieftain, our one practicing ayatollah of CO2 scientology

What a grass snake.

Ron Anderson you keep some nice company. You too sketch.

DMT

Oh my.. this deep personal ATTACK/INSULT coming from the TACO's lead SELFIE publishing FENCE SQUATTER!


Rick and Ron, I suggest you now contemplate both calling the local suicide Hot Lines. That insult most assuredly had to hit home.









NOT!










Carry on.




















OH YEAH!


That "Humility" you were so adamant about up thread BRUCEE KY, the true AA "humility" involves nothing more than surrendering ones ego and self-centered thinking of trying to be in control of everything, including ones future and the future of the everything around them, to a Power Greater than themselves.

Understanding and accepting that is the key to living a life at peace.

Just thought you might want to know that, BRUCEE KY.


Unfortunately, the first rule of "Scientism" states that any form of surrender to a Power Greater than itself, the "Science", is blasphemy.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
NOT!


Yes we know you are very stalwart and resilient.


That is not a virtue. Hell, the nazi's were stalwart and resilient, but in the end neither ethic or reality were on their side.

Jes sayin'
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
Well, you seem bent in IGNORING reality Brucie..Globul COOLING is on the menu duhhhhhhhhh.....
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
Yes we know you are very stalwart and resilient.


That is not a virtue. Hell, the nazi's were stalwart and resilient...

They were??


If that were the case, then why are they not around today.



Perfect example of your delusional bullshet thinking.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
Brilliant insight Chuff.

Brilliant editting too you scurilous rogue.


Wuts up with this in your backyard?

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/09/261070150/its-not-magic-on-the-mountain-its-a-rain-making-machine
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
"My backyard"?


Dude, that thing is some 180 miles to the north of me.


Get a grip.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
If that were the case, then why are they not around today.

Perfect example of your delusional bullshet thinking.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
Glad you concur WI, glad.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
"My backyard"?


Dude, that thing is some 180 miles to the north of me.


Get a grip.


My mistake dude. I keep forgetting you are a tribal xenophobe holed up some dry wash in the whites
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
Lets talk about ethics Bruce. Tear yourself away from the horror show of that green tech laden stock portfolio of yours long enough to concentrate.Now Larry and his compatriots all agree that this is 97.1% consensus science with a 95% certainty of current and future adverse climatic conditions as a result of anthro CO2 release, right? Well, assuming the truth of that why are huge sums of limited funding still being granted for study of a consensus surety? Wouldn't ethics and morality dictate that Larry and crew shift gears from study to appled science of solving such things as the intermittancy/storage problems of wind and solar even if it meant that the notariety and funding he's enjoying would diminish since it would go to the hard sciences of physics, engineering, geology, etc and not to soft sciences like sociology , of which many studies have been conducted on identifying the stupidities of the populace in not comprehending that black is white and up is down in all things AGW? If this ethical disconnect could be corrected it might just help the green tech stocks, humanity in general, and your own ethics, I mean portfolio.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
My mistake dude. I keep forgetting you are a tribal xenophobe holed up some dry wash in the whites.

Sure em. And the non-stop view is horrendous. This one from last nights sunset.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
Great game in Foxborough MA yesterday, terrible weather for January in MA, rain... and warm too..
how fickle the weather...
Yeah, we've gone from -14F a week ago to rain & fog last night and a windy, melting mess today. Don't think this has much to do with climate change but it keeps life interesting. We *might* put on spikes to go hiking this afternoon, but it's windy enough that branches could be falling.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
Hows the weather here? Cold as crap last night as the winds were at 60 mph and the power was out all night long until this am..

Perhaps the ocean let loose with that .06 of a degree causing a huge wind event..
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
You're right Rick. Its dumb to continue improving the modeling with an every increasing base of knowledge and evidence. I suggest we stop learning because our certainty is "good enough". Chiloe should instead begin doing stuff that is not within his field of expertise. Damn its a good thing you're here to provide balance.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 12, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
Yes Rick ,explain ethics for us delusional utopians.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 02:03pm PT



But then, because we are so nice, we keep putting them back instead of throwing them on the barbie!
TLP

climber
Jan 12, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
...why are huge sums of limited funding still being granted for study of a consensus surety?
There are plenty of good reasons, some of which have already been stated clearly above.
1. There's a continued political onslaught of lavishly funded opposition to the science itself, which is free speech even though it's inaccurate. The only reasonable way to counter that is to improve the science more and more.
2. The scientific community continues to reveal inaccuracies in how the modeling predicts what happens in specific places (see Santer et al. - great paper), which although they are relatively small ought to be corrected.
3. Getting the modeling as quantitatively, spatially, and temporally accurate as can be achieved is really important to the other, totally separate, social/political/economic question of what should anybody do? For example, if we knew with a very high degree of certainty that the sea level were going to rise a meter in one or two decades, talk about emissions becomes moot for low-lying cities like Miami, New York, many Asian cities, etc. Those places (cities and countries) would be well advised to start immediately to design and implement better defenses. If you had an accurate forecast that it would take 150 years for the sea level to rise that much, you wouldn't spend the billions that would require right away.

It's really important to get your mind around the idea that there's figuring out the science, and there's the completely separate political process of response. I'd have to believe that seismic scientists in Japan probably had an idea of the size of tsunami that could have reasonably been expected on their east coast. But presumably the population and decision makers figured they were just alarmists and it would be fine to build a nuclear power plant where it would be swamped and possibly melt down. Or maybe there was a open discussion, and the scientists said, well, we're not sure if it's X percent likely within 10 or 30 years, and it could be 20 feet high or 23 feet, or maybe 40; so the "alarmism" was ignored.

A similar question is why the entities that work so hard to convince people that the science is not good aren't doing any (or hardly any) publication-worthy research themselves. (Meaning, sufficiently rigorous to get through peer review.)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 12, 2014 - 02:28pm PT
I could have sworn that Rick Sumners just offered to lead a discussion in ethics.....
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 12, 2014 - 03:01pm PT
" There's a continued political onslaught of lavishly funded opposition to the science itself"


Really,Tell us more.
Credit: wilbeer
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 12, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
DINGUS!!

You are such a Fence Straddler and even worse, a flaming internet KISS ASS!

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1386860&tn=19880


Unfkingbelievble.... Downright disgusting dude.


Seriously.
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