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Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 19, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
Credit: Cheesegraphs
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
VARIABILITY

Climate Science Modlers term for the "Observed" Data does not meet our agenda so "SMOOTH" it up or down so that it does.

Never happened. Amazing....




http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global



http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1900/to:2014/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1900/to:2014
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:12pm PT

Caps and BOLD.
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
VARIABILITY = NEVER HAPPENDED


Amazing.


How many hundreds of miles you put on that FF burning C02 emitting Hoopty Van of yours this weekend to go climbing, WADE??


Now that is definitely... NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:16pm PT
Ugly American is a pejorative term used to refer to perceptions of loud, arrogant, demeaning, thoughtless, ignorant, and ethnocentric behavior of American citizens mainly abroad, but also at home.
TLP

climber
Jan 19, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
Ed is absolutely correct: look at the real data, not just a derivative plot. But not having the time to do that just now, I'll just note that it certainly isn't a blip, but sure looks exactly like two big cooling trends even more notable that the much ballyhooed "hiatus" of the last 13 years (which is certainly real - but as for these earlier ones, easily within the range of natural variation around the overall increasing temperature trend from increasing GHGs).
Cooling trends, anyone?
Cooling trends, anyone?
Credit: TLP
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:39am PT
Hey EDH, I fixed it for ya. Look, don't need no stinking PhD either...






Same with you TLP, look at all them "cooling periods" in the past 25-30 years as well. Looks more like all the add on's to FUKEDMENTAL's original dwarfed dick and his multiple surgeries to make it APPEAR normal...






You Circus Model Crayon Drawing People are getting funnier as each day passes. With EDH and Larry Hamilton jousting hard for the Ring Leader spot.

And the butt snorkling! I hope you all are using recycled paper towels (part of the ECO-FREAK CLUB protocol) for all the face wiping that is going on.

My god!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:44am PT
Yup. Jokes on us. Turns out we're dealing with an idiot.

Who da guess that?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:46am PT
Yup. Jokes on us. Turns out we're dealing with an idiot.

Now Brucee KY, no need to talk about EDH in that fashion. Show some respect.


Oh... my bad.


That was Larry you were talking about.


OK!


Remember BRUCEE KY, "Certified" Recycled Paper Towels ONLY!





Check this out Boys and Girls. All in the name of GREEN ENERGY etc.


Here is your marvelous science at work. Perfect and a bigass.... WONDERFUL!!

Do you want cancer with that battery?


Recently, the Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Energy undertook a study to look at the environmental impact of lithium-ion batteries for EVs. The study showed that batteries that use cathodes with nickel and cobalt, as well as solvent-based electrode processing, have the highest potential for environmental impacts, including resource depletion, global warming, ecological toxicity, and human health. The largest contributing processes include those associated with the production, processing, and use of cobalt and nickel metal compounds, which may cause adverse respiratory, pulmonary, and neurological effects in those exposed.


In other words, li-ion batteries that contain nickel and cobalt have a significant effect on health and the environment. More specifically, this includes Panasonic's automotive grade li-ion batteries, which contain lithium, nickel, cobalt , and aluminum, and a proprietary cathode geometry developed jointly by Panasonic and Tesla -- and are currently used in the Model S.


A bleak outlook

Clearly, the above isn't great news for those who are concerned about the environment beyond their backyards. And it's not the only bad news for EVs. The EPA found that when looking at life-cycle impact assessments, categories such as global warming potential, acidification potential (transformation of air pollutants into acids), eutrophication potential (water pollution often leading to excessive water weed/algae growth), ozone depletion potential, photochemical oxidation potential (air pollution), human toxicity potential, occupation cancer hazard, and occupational non-cancer hazard, the only time an EV battery scored better than a plug-in hybrid-electric vehicle's battery is in the category that measures potential for global warming.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/01/19/tesla-motors-dirty-little-secret-is-a-major-proble.aspx
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 12:56am PT
Do us all a favor and go drown yourself in the bathtub chuff. What is stunningly amazing is that the height of intellectual capacity in the world of Climate change denial is Dick Sumner. Thats it. It dosn't get any better. Its all down hill from Rick. A guy who gets his education out of a cereal box and his high priest of ethics is a six year old holding a grown man hostage.

And this passes for American exceptionalism. No wonder the gangster in russia is making such a come back.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:01am PT
Remember BRUCEE KY, "Certified" Recycled Paper Towels ONLY!



Best wipe up asap before it dries up....



Oh yeah....


Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:12am PT
Yikes. Chuffs investment advisor's claims of returns seem a little suspect. 45 to 147% huh? Sure I'd believe whatever he says. I guess we now have the answer to why Chuff lives off dog food and rides a tricycle to anxiously check the mailbox for his pension cheque.

http://www.fool.com/?source=iflsittph0000001


I can't help noticing the deafening silence from Sketch, Wrong and Dick. I suppose they might be taking out the garbage or something else super important but it occurred to me......

Could it be that even they are starting to feel a little soiled in light of their long history of fawning adoration of the ethicless bastard? Its like Stephen Harper and his old pal Rob Ford. Rob gets obscenely drunk and stoned just a little too publicly and amazingly enough, he's no longer welcome at the Conservative party shin digs. I guess thats just how they roll.


The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:24am PT
anxiously check the mailbox for his pension cheque.

I know you Commies up there in BC are a bit behind the times, but please!



DDS or ETS ring a bell Brucee KY.

DING DING DING.




Probably not.

Oh well.




VARIABILITY = AGENDA ASSURANCE







Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:28am PT
Oh ya, us commies are sure behind the times all right. But hey at least we pulled out of US stock before all you smart east side capitalists.

Now I can share with my comrades more than one can of Alpo per day.

Tell you what Chuff.... just to show no hard feelings and that I'm not a cold hearted kunt, next time I'm in your neighborhood climbing your rocks, I'll leave my empties for you. I'll even email you so you can get there first.

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:38am PT
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:48am PT
It's good that the mesmerized but brain dead flock that are cheered on by a small group of ready for pasture scientists here, are keeping their faith of a firey doom. Meanwhile the high priests, Trenberth among them,are suffering a spiritual crisis and may leave the fleeced flocks behind with their infilled, smoothed, adjusted, temp graphs and imaginary matching models to impress a maddening crowd. The "pause" has gone global, and mainstream ,and the race is on to find the combination of pesky natural mechanism's responsible so as to properly explain them away in the typical twisted CAGW fashion before the world fully realizes the magnitude of the overhype. Take a look at this publication below again.

http://www.nature.com/news/climate-change-the-case-of-the-missing-heat-1.14525





Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:51am PT
Thank god you're here Dick. Chuff very nearly succeeding in dragging us down to his level. I trust you had a fine day smearing chukar brains all over your toast dry desert? Or are you up in unseasonably balmy Wassilla?

Either way, you have pondered long and hard on ethics for the past week or so?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2014 - 01:57am PT
Meanwhile the high priests, Trenberth among them,are suffering a spiritual crisis and may leave the fleeced flocks behind with their infilled, smoothed, adjusted, temp graphs and imaginary matching models.


Wow, is that really something I'm supposed to take seriously?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 20, 2014 - 01:59am PT
Yes Bruce, besides planning on littering the great state of the land of fruits and nuts ( in your last post to The Chief), it took you 22,500 posts to quit lying about being a capitalist and admit to your true ideology. Real ethics from B.C. Bruce.By the way littering is fined steeply.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 20, 2014 - 02:03am PT
No. Forget that. You should take this seriously. Chuffs man gets wicked returns:

http://www.fool.com/?source=iflsittph0000001

Rick, that reminds me - some buddies have this really sweet placer mine going up near your place and I can almost totally guarantee you returns of between 45 and 147%. I'm only offering this to you knowing how astute your judgement is on worldly matters. You just go check it out tomorrow morning. Maybe Wrong could pitch in a few bills.

Ethically speaking, I feel ok letting you in on this. Our little secret alright?

Also Rick, its not littering. In your country its called feeding the poor, or food stamps or something. Ethically it is worth the risk of breaching an unjust law.
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