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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 08:02am PT
sdi-fi claims he's a researcher from Stanford, but relies on blogs for his understanding of the state of climate science and quotes geology professors in an attempt sound knowledgeable about climate.

Another Bozo for the clown car!



recent temperature hiatus


Hey sci-fi, in the past 6 months, how many hold the record for the hottest months on record?

If you've been paying attention, you'll note that we're heading for the hottest year on record. How does that square with your claim about a hiatus?
sci-fi

climber
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:06am PT
Thanks for that insightful contribution to this debate.
Says a whole lot about you.

If you remember that the CAGW-hypothesis was that increasing CO2 leads to increasing temperature. Then the longevity of the hiatus essentially negates the hypothesis.
It does not matter one bit that it is warmer now yhay at the enf of the little ice age when the thermometer was invented.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 08:12am PT
sci-fi, thanks for that link to the bogus blog article.

Now about that author:

Is climate disinformer Ross McKitrick dishonest or dumb?


So, the question remains, are you dishonest, or dumb?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:17am PT
I guess scifi is trying to catch up on this tread... posting nearly 2 year old articles as "news":

Leaked UN climate report slammed for citing WWF/Greenpeace
The UN has been rebuked for once again including the world of climate change lobby groups in lieu of hard science

by The Commentator on 24 January 2013 11:16

which is based on Fox News reporting.

There a large number of references at the end of each chapter of each report, and there were 4 reports produced in the AR5...

maybe scifi could provide even one example, and a volume,page citation?

raymond phule

climber
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:20am PT
Raymond, statistically speaking the pause is now up to 27 years depending on which data set you use:

You have an impressive track record to get everything wrong to some extent. It was not 27 years in that article. Not a large error but still an error.

The article is also just playing around with statistical significance in a uninteresting way in my opinion.

So the 27 year significant trend in rss (that don't even Spencer think is correct) is 0.11 degrees per decade but the slightly larger 26 year trend is not statistically significant so we say that the pause started 26 year ago or something like that.

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:25am PT
I was wondering when someone would step forward to accurately depict what's going on with the Alberta tar sands, and lo and behold Base finally steps forward.

You know Base, this is your forest whacking and organic biociding dream on a huge industrial scale. Whole forests are whacked down, reduced to chips, then sent on Warren's trains to destinations like merry old England via super CO2 releasing barges where the offending future CO2 releasing forests are burned in wood fired electrical generation stations. But hey, its renewable. And all this biociding ,Base, happens before they even get started on the extraction process which uses billions and billions (thanks Carl Sagan) of cubic feet of the cheap natural gas you have so graciously helped locate and provide.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:25am PT
Sketch wrote this?! He wants to be noticed. He wants to be relevant. But he's got nothing.... nothing but petty ad homs. He just shows up being an as#@&%e... hoping someone takes the bait.

well you can't say that Sketch is tortured by self-examination...
raymond phule

climber
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:29am PT

sci-fi, thanks for that link to the bogus blog article.

Now about that author:

Is climate disinformer Ross McKitrick dishonest or dumb?


So, the question remains, are you dishonest, or dumb?

Really? Sci-fi links to what I believe is a valid article. You say that it is a blog. Then you go on and link to a blog that discredit the author on a different article.

So what really is you point? Is blog valid sources or not? Did you prove that the article sci-fi linked to is dishonest or dumb?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 3, 2014 - 08:50am PT
Blinded by his own myopia.

whoa, he's on a roll!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 3, 2014 - 09:03am PT
Ed, tell us all about the only answer to this looming climate catastrophe you consider viable.

Let's hear again about the benefits of carbon taxation, more and tighter environmental regulation, and the benefit of attack on industry via enviro NGO's endless litigation.

Earth to Eddy: are you doing your duty today by filling out and mailing in reams of absentee ballots for those to lazy, or yet unaffected by the horrors of manmade climate change, to care about the importance of casting a liberal-centric ballot? Don't forget man, the general electorate is to stupid to realize that their personal loss is the environments gain.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 10:14am PT
Could not be any closer to the truth.

Funny that The Chief writes as if he knows what truth is.


Hey The Chief, got some more quotes from your wife?
I love to hear what she truly feels.



He just shows up being an as#@&%e... hoping someone takes the bait.


Hmmm, who just showed up and started calling folks names?
Why that would be Sketch. How timely.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 10:22am PT
sci-fi

Mar 23, 2014 - 05:01pm PT

I donít know much about climbing and have only just started, but with a PhD in geoscience and a dozen peer-reviewed publications under my belt I can say a thing or two about the current state of climate science, which can basically be summarized in a few graphs.


sci-fi

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
I know the feeling of being bombarded by falling ice plates from Patagonia and I don't need to experience that ever again.

sci-fi

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
I nearly died from hypothermia on Exocet by climbing in an icy waterfall for three hours, so I know the feeling.


Can you tell the truth from the fiction?

Nothing like going for it in Patagonia when you don't know much about climbing! And nothing like being a PhD in the sciences without knowing how to do proper research ...

sci-fi

climber
Nov 3, 2014 - 10:51am PT
k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.
You were probably smearing the sceptics in this thread while I was climbing the North Face of the Eiger.
You definitely need to prioritise your time better...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Nov 3, 2014 - 10:52am PT
Lol.

Sci-fi is sci-fi.

DMT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Nov 3, 2014 - 12:37pm PT
k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.
You were probably smearing the sceptics in this thread while I was climbing the North Face of the Eiger.
You definitely need to prioritise your time better...


of course, scifi can claim anything, he's an anonymous troll, just like Sketch, et al.

so far I rather doubt he's a "scientist" but that's just based on his difficulty understanding elementary concepts for data analysis, statistics, and basic scientific reading skills.

But we'll never know, the anonymity provides a perfect cover behind which to claim absolutely anything, true or not...

...how'd the week go on the Captain?

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 3, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
http://news.yahoo.com/rare-early-season-storm-brings-record-setting-snowfall-153609628.html




http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/11/03/if-all-you-see-1302/
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 3, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
Thanks for the weather report,TGT.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 3, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/11/02/record-low-temperatures-hit-south-florida-during-cold-front/

monolith

climber
SF bay area
Nov 3, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
Thanks for the weather report, TGT.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
From:

sci-fi
Mar 23, 2014 - 05:01pm PT

I donít know much about climbing ...

To:

sci-fi
Nov 3, 2014 - 10:51am PT

k-man, lets just say that I have done more climbing than you'll ever do.



Somehow, sci-fi lacks the credibility he so much desires.




She stated how she feels utterly "sorry for anyone that could ever be married to such a buffoon as that KaveMAN fool!"

And there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth!



So what?

Sketch, it marks the end of the "hiatus" you so love to reference.
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