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dirtbag
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:37am PT
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Funny how the whackjob conspiracy sites never show this photo:
Let me guess, some guy in sunglasses and a dark suit sprinkled this sh#t on the lawn after the fact.
And what about those missing passengers? Or the missing airliner?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:38am PT
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No, they do show that photo, with the roof line intact.
Wow, that piece sure seals the deal for me. I mean, amazing that ANY piece of the place is left! [BTW, that's sarcasm.]
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:41am PT
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Yep, k-man, that part of the building collapsed later due to the fire, just like the towers.
Is that shocking?
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:42am PT
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I had access to the remote video camera there and saw suits run over there and plant that sh'it.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:42am PT
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That is obviously a 5L Heineken can painted to look like a plane and tossed out there by a photog down on his luck and needing some quick coin.....
Father Stephen McGraw lives down the street from me... and is now saying it was a frozen turkey shot from a rain gun, not a plane that wiped out the Pentagon.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:46am PT
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Also, K-man, there were generators and other structures in front of that section due to the construction and were struck by the plane on its way in.
Not surprising that there would be some debris on the lawn.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:47am PT
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Of course, ..... you read and saw it on the internet so it must be true.
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:49am PT
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And I suppose the passengers that were on that missing flight, and the plane that disappeared, went where...?
Oh the plot thickens!!!
So let's see... we have as conspirators:
The US Military
The President's office
The CIA
The FBI
Al Qaeda
City of NY
Various Airlines
Various Passengers
The MSM, the entire MSM, for not reporting the truth
Congress
Countless electricians, carpenters, etc who wire WTC 7 for explosives
Thousands of folks involved in this great conspiracy who so far, have managed to keep this great secret.
O-kay.
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:51am PT
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It never happened!
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:54am PT
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Not all of us are mystics and can fly through space and time Werner. We have to make sense of the totality of sources and experience that we have.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 17, 2009 - 12:55am PT
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That's right!
It never happened how they, think it happened.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 01:50am PT
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that part of the building collapsed later due to the fire
Obviously. But, why it didn't collapse due to the friggin' HUGE jet hitting it is beyond me!
One: Plane loaded with fuel takes down huge building.
Two: Plane loaded with fuel leaves a 20' diameter hole. Plane vaporized, however, and leaves no trace. Wings? Vaporized before
they hit the building.
If you believe that, fine. I don't.
BTW, did you bother to read through the link I provided?
Naw, why should you when you already know all there is to know.
And besides, ignorance is bliss.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:00am PT
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They were both struck, burned for a while, then collapsed.
The outer wall of the pentagon was thick, reinforced concrete. The towers were thin steel.
You honestly can't see the wing damage in that shot?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:05am PT
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Father Stephen McGraw lives down the street from me... and is now saying it was a frozen turkey shot from a rain gun
Naw Russ, it was this guy, with two pumps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JY0tDHRhM
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:11am PT
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You honestly can't see the wing damage in that shot?
Um, no. And neither could Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, who was actually at the Pentagon on 9/11.
But, I'm sure you can see the wing damage, parts of the plane, and probably even Mr. McGoo, if that's what the 9/11 commission said.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:14am PT
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Holy shiit! I'm starting to believe! That Spud_Gun was full on bad azzzzz! Mapp_Gas even!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:17am PT
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Dude! This is crazy.
Look at this picture, right above the one you show:
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep2001/010914-F-8006R-001.jpg
Where is the plane?? Where are the wings?? You gotta be kidding me,
this is supposed to be proof that a jet plane hit this building?
Do you seriously believe the wings just vaporized when they hit the building, with so little damage to the building?
Well, I guess you do. However, many, many folks don't.
[Edit] From the report: "We see that the entire left wing
damaged the building, and almost the entire wing except for the
wing tip entered the building."
To be honest, I do not see much damage from the left wing. And, I do not see where the entire wing, except for the tip, entered the building. All the columns on the left are intact.
Can you explain this?
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:18am PT
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Dude, there was an intense fire. Planes are made of aluminum.
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Sep 17, 2009 - 02:22am PT
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See the point where it says 'left wing impact hole'?
All those supports are shoring put up later for safety during the cleanup.
From that page:
Finally for comparison, I offer a photo taken of the collapsed section days afterward. Note that columns 4-8 are numbered on the columns themselves by the recovery workers. Note also the impact damage at columns 4-8 which was visible in the Morris photo. Between columns 8-11 we find the left wing impact hole, shored up but exactly of the same dimensions seen in the Morris photo. Note that the left edge of the collapse is right at column 11, where we saw the vertical displacement in the Ingersoll photos. The right edge of the collapsed section is right at column 18 -- exactly where the right wing impact hole terminated. In the collapsed section itself, columns 12 through 17 are visible. Also note that right wing impact damage extends beyond the hole, between columns 18 and 21 -- from the second floor, to the third and fourth floors, just as we saw in photo #5.
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