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Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2009 - 02:20pm PT
I was going to tell the one Drljefe just posted. Grateful day, today all.

"The Wheel keeps turning...

Gym climber
crimping through the start of the Generator
Aug 9, 2009 - 03:29pm PT
I got the most random email from my stepmom (age:70-something) this morning. An excerpt:

"This evening the sunset was really beautiful and B. and I had dinner on the deck -- then I went inside and started making granola, mostly because I hadn't given a birthday gift to a friend (hi, Jill, I'm copying you). I put on a CD -- Workingman's Dead -- and I just want to tell all of you to pass on to your children that the Deadheads did not ever represent the Dead. They were just a bunch of stoners who followed the tours and didn't listen to the music. This is very important to tell your children! The Grateful Dead's music was sweet, almost gentle. In fact, at the time I was kind of dismissive because I liked things a little (as Tina would say) more rough.... but now that I'm um slowing down I realize I was being too dismissive. So listen to that album. "

Way to characterize about 200,000 people...who were apparently onto something about 30 years before you were!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 9, 2009 - 04:26pm PT
...honestly, I don't see the resemblance

except in quantity of hair...

but I'm happy if people think so

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
It is possible that it is even more in the creative nature, than just in the photo image.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 9, 2009 - 06:07pm PT
Jaybro, that would be very high praise indeed. Garcia was unbelievably active in music, he seemed to be everywhere, all the time, working on nearly every genre of popular music, even making some music genres popular. A brilliant and accomplished muscian.

I thought when he died that it was more from his hyperactivity then the drug abuse. He just "emptied the tank" and coasted to a stop, too exhausted to find a filling station.


Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2009 - 06:33pm PT
Yeah, we always wondered just how deep the tank was. Kept wanting him to cover just a little more ground.

Others promote physics, wyde climbing, turbo diesel retro-fits and, not unlike Jerry, harmony.

Each in their own way....

Trad climber
Lost Wages
Aug 9, 2009 - 09:22pm PT

Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
Aug 9, 2009 - 09:37pm PT
I was up in the Mono Recesses when JG died; I didn't learn of his death until we got back to Shaver Lake. ...hit me hard, that one did. He really personified the Dead for me. Bob Weir and Garcia played some amazing sets off of each other.

In addition to his bouts of drug abuse/dependence, it's widely-reported that he suffered from sleep apnea. Do some research. That is one heinous killer! For me, that explains the "heart attack of natural causes."
east side underground

Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
Aug 9, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
this week Jerry,next week copperheads

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2009 - 10:15pm PT
I was driving the 14 miles to work, when I heard the radio play non stop dead music, ( they were never a band that got a lot of radio time) I knew what had to be up before I got the news. I still feel it today 14 years later.

I used to have that same poster on my college room wall, Indianclimber. 30 years ago it was retro, and today it's still a classic. Wonder what happened to it.....

Trad climber
The High And Lonely
Aug 9, 2009 - 10:25pm PT

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2009 - 10:31pm PT
any new climbs put up today called 'Capitan Trips'?

Social climber
Way Out There
Aug 9, 2009 - 11:56pm PT
It was the Dead all day.

1980, I am cross country skiing at Crane Flat, I think it was, and camped out in the Valley, maybe Upper Pines. The people across from me were listening to the Dead on the boom box.

Flashback to 1968: summertime at Curry Village. I hear the clank of metal on metal. I see a short, stout climber covered with pitons and bongs walk up and through the pavilion. First time I ever saw a real climber.

Grant Meisenholder

Trad climber
Aug 10, 2009 - 12:44am PT
Friends- Jerry isn't dead. Really. It was just a big put-on to allow him to go back to a peaceful existence. Think about it: Back in '94 the concerts were out of control. People crashing the gates, starting riots, getting busted, couldn't hear the music for all of the people singing. What was the point of putting on a concert if no one was really there to listen? and they were getting banned from multiple sites. The whole drug aspect of the scene was front page news whenever a concert hit town, and the authorities didn't want that going on during their watch.

Jerry was in & out of rehab, but he had just turned a corner and was getting healthy.

My take is that the "powers that be" offered him a way out - Fake his death, go underground, & live happily ever after. I think he's living in the south of France somewhere near R Crumb & just laying low with a new identity. Think about it...

Trad climber
The High And Lonely
Aug 29, 2009 - 04:25pm PT

i was just given this link- deadhead shangri-la.

Aug 30, 2009 - 10:18pm PT
anybody ever find the cassettes i dropped off 4th pitch of Mescalito in 1984?

early eighties girlfriend's father was a Dead-Med, never missed a show, would actually peer-pressure us to go to shows- once there, i resisted the collective consciousness at shows, would not submit to IT, though the jamming was miraculous, all these apparent zombies swaying in unison, resist, resist....

but then, at our first hanging bivouac on Mescalito, we heard a clattering in the night- 11 carefully-chosen cassettes slithering down the wall- gone were Hendrix, Yes, the Doors- we were left with only one cassette for the ensuing 7 days on the wall, the tape that was in the Walkman and so didn't get dropped- Workingman's Dead-

over and over in a continuous loop, bivvies and belays- it didn't get boring- it just kept getting better- Workingman's intermingled with El Cap in my brain- when we got to the top, i knew something had changed- i had joined the body- i was a Deadhead now ...
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Aug 31, 2009 - 12:29am PT
"If you please, don't back up the track this train's got to run today"

Love that speedway boogie, but Cumberland Blues is the first Dead song that hooked me. So many different styles all wrapped up in one band.

Trad climber
electric lady land
Aug 31, 2009 - 08:39am PT
i had some "legion of mary" bootleg on
cassette tape that was some of
the best j.g. collaboration i've ever

jerry garcia-guitar
merle saunders-keys
john kahn-bass
martin fierro-sax
paul humphrey-drums

gotta find that on disc.

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Aug 31, 2009 - 08:43am PT
Yeah Jerry and Merle!!

Old Pueblo, AZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2009 - 12:39pm PT
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