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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Jul 27, 2009 - 08:23pm PT
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i'd hoped it wouldn't happen, but here we are. I'm really disappointed that Moonlight is still listed as an aid route, using that logic, why isn't the East face of Washington column listed as a great 5.9 C2 on the road to the nose topo.
here's hoping it's even more vague than people are alluding to, and this isn't Indian Creek redux.
i guess i can at least say thanks for not including the other half.
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Chinchen
climber
Flagstaff?
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Jul 27, 2009 - 08:27pm PT
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"What I'm trying to stress is that the current lack of any kind of restrictions is slowly but inexorably leading to a situation ON EARTH where the resources are degraded to an unacceptable level DUE TO LACK OF FORESIGHT."
Its just part of the bigger picture. Humans are a plague. Every single thing we touch goes to sh#t.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Jul 27, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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Moonlight is actually listed as IV 5.12+ or 5.9 c1.
Opening paragraph ...
This is one of the world's great 5.12 free climbs and big walls.
for me it is still an aid climb.
They have the first pitch listed as a 5.7, so it really should be 5.7 c1. Damn hard 5.7 if you ask me.
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More Air
Big Wall climber
S.L.C.
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Jul 27, 2009 - 09:48pm PT
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It will be interesting to see how much the new guide increases climbing. I think the free climbs will see more traffic, but the trade routes are all ready well known, so they won't change much. The lesser known clean walls will now have more beta, so it will be interesting to see if they start getting climbed. My guess is that these walls will not see much new action.
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