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cultureshock

Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 6, 2009 - 04:34pm PT
UPDATED:

I'm looking for a topo or two for the Incredible Hulk.

I'm interested in Blow Hard and Solar flare/solar burn (sun burn?)

Anyone done these routes?

Hulk Photo Topo (full REZ)!

The Solar Flare & Blow Hard lines are rough and corrections welcomed!

Any advice/beta for Eye of the storm?

If you don't want to post up please send me an email/message.

I've complied all the other Hulk Beta here:

http://www.dreaminvertical.com/2012/07/incredible-hulk-101-tips-tricks-and-beta/

Let me know if anyone has comments/updates.

Thanks,

Luke


Original Post:

I'm looking for a topo or two for the Incredible Hulk that show the routes to the right of Positive Vibrations as well as those between Sunspot Dihedral and PV.

Any information regarding Airstream, Tradewinds, The Venturi Effect or AstroHulk would be appreciated.

Any info on the Power Ranger start for AstroHulk/PV would be nice too.

Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Jul 6, 2009 - 07:34pm PT
I, too, would be very interested in that beta. I was just talking to someone about how I needed to post on here and ask for it recently. If someone supplies the beta, THANK YOU!

Josh
cultureshock

Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2009 - 07:27pm PT
So there is a topo for Airstream here:
http://www.supertopo.com/topos/obscurities/Airstream.jpg

The Venturi Effect:
http://www.supertopo.com/topos/obscurities/venturieffect.pdf

Tradewinds:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos/Topo/Topo_91373.html

So far I haven't found anything on Astro Hulk.

I found a farily cool article about Eye of the Storm (V 5.12, 12 pitches, 1500 feet) but no topo....
http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web07f/newswire-incredible-hulk-davis


Airstream did get a 2nd ascent by Nic Sellars and Tom Briggs.

From the MoonBlog:

Nic Sellars and Tom Briggs have just returned from a trad climbing trip in the states where amongst other things they made the 2nd ascent of a classic Peter Croft route called Airstream. Nic sent in this report.

"Just got back to Blighty after a fab month long trip to the states to climb in the High Sierras on an Alpine rock trip. Tom Briggs and I managed to make the 2nd ascent of Airsteam, a 12 pitch Peter Croft route on a crag called The Incredible Hulk. The route comprised numerous pitches of 5.11 (E4 ish) up to the crux pitches of 512c (7b+), 513b (7c+), 512c. We managed to on-sight all pitches except the crux pitch which managed to squeeze in all it's difficulty into about 15 ft of slippery groove technical shinaniggins. I red-pointed this by the skin of my teeth as I was fairly trashed by the climb up to this point. All in all we took 12 hours from bivvi to bivvi. The next day we quested down to a very hot and sweaty Bishop to contratulate Peter on his route with some beers (and meet up with a real US role model). Hope the photo attachment arrives in a useable state."

Still looking for more Hulk info!!

 Luke
Dumpster Diver

climber
Jul 7, 2009 - 10:40pm PT
check out the new Secor book
cultureshock

Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2009 - 03:04pm PT
I'm assuming you are talking about this book:

http://www.chesslerbooks.com/eCart/viewItem.asp?idProduct=6966

Does it have topos or just route descriptions?

Does anyone know if it has the harder routes listed above?
thierry

Sport climber
Aix en Provence / FRANCE
Jul 8, 2009 - 04:39pm PT
hello all from France
please, where are these climbs ?
first time,I heard about it.

2 months left before coming.....stil training but it begin to turn pretty warm here.

thierry
micronut

Trad climber
fresno, ca
Jul 8, 2009 - 04:56pm PT
Thierry,
USA
California
East Side of Sierra Nevada Mountain Range
Highway 395
Near Town of Bridgeport, ca
On a "Mountain" called the Incredible Hulk

A few/several(depending on your load and fitness) hours walk into the backcountry. Some go car to car in LONG days, most camp out and enjoy the mountains.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 8, 2009 - 05:18pm PT
There goes the neighborhood.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2009 - 05:27pm PT
You can get a free topo of Red Dihedral and more info about Positive Vibrations and SunSpot Dihedral here:

http://www.supertopo.com/routebeta/highsierra.html
stella

climber
cali
Jul 8, 2009 - 07:22pm PT
e-mail me and i'll try to get you a topo to astro hulk. pretty sure my friend has a copy of it.
COD

climber
Jul 20, 2009 - 11:33pm PT
Looking for some HULK topos as well and perhaps a partner (mine just got injured) Anyone got topos for Eye of the Storm or Astro Hulk. I'd love to do Venturi Effect and try Airstream. Will be there starting Aug 15th.
hoipolloi

climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
Jul 21, 2009 - 12:46am PT
good topo finding effort cultureshock.

nice gems, cool to see topos of those routes, haven't gotten out there yet, looks so good....
WBraun

climber
Jul 21, 2009 - 12:47am PT
Why you need topo?

The first ascent party didn't have topo ......
JakeW

Big Wall climber
CA
Jul 22, 2009 - 10:14am PT
Werner's kinda right, especially on the Hulk. If you go up there, you'll see cracks and corners running bottom to top...they're all equipped at this point, choose the nicest looking line and head up, and as mentioned, its all in the new version of the fine literary guidebook from Secor, no topos allowed. But there's a picture with the lines drawn in...it looks like a picture without the lines drawn in.
The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Tampa, FL
Aug 17, 2009 - 01:33am PT

Does this overlay look about right?

What else is up there?

Wildmotor

climber
Aug 24, 2009 - 05:25pm PT
The COD and I did a link-up of Trade Winds (the first five pitches) to Astro Hulk and it was really fun! This was in order to avoid the 5.12 pitches on Trade Winds because I'm not a 5.12 climber. Our link-up was a good alternative to Positive Vibes for 5.11 climbers, although there was quite a bit of kitty litter and runout at the top of Astro Hulk so fledgling 5.11 leaders (like me) would be a bit spooked. The COD called it "heady" but had no trouble with it, and I found it fun to follow.

On the topo we had, there was a fixed piton on a 5.10 section of Astro Hulk, which I did encounter while leading the pitch. However, it fell out in my hand when I clipped it so it's not there any more! Luckily, that section was well-protected by a blue alien.
sween345

climber
back east
Aug 24, 2009 - 05:53pm PT
thierry,

Now you can see, too. [url]http://www.vimeo.com/3746358[/url]


cultureshock

Trad climber
Wall Climber Wannabe
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2009 - 02:14pm PT
A few photo overlay topos that I made.



Check here for larger versions:
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/high_sierra/incredible_hulk/106546873

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/high_sierra/incredible_hulk/106516463


Also if you have any comments/corrections let me know.


Enjoy,

Luke
SamP

Trad climber
Tuolumne Meadows
Aug 5, 2010 - 09:51am PT
You can find topos for the Venturi and Astro-Hulk at Mountainproject. Having a hard time finding one for Eye of the Storm though.
Bob Harrington

climber
Bishop, California
Aug 5, 2010 - 12:28pm PT
A few historical notes:

On the FA of Positive Vibration, we got up to the terrace by going up the third class below the Red Dihedral, stepping over onto Tradewinds at around P2, and following that line up to the terrace to access the upper pitches.

We initially did that start in '77, when we did a route that follows Astrohulk above the terrace for several pitches, but near the top we pendulumed left into a left facing dihedral (visible in Cultureshock's first image, just below the skyline, left of the last pitch of Astohulk). We supposed that Greg Donaldson's party, on the very first ascent of the wall, started as per the standard start to PV, did a few pitches on Astrohulk, then swung to the right and eventually finished up near the top of the Red Dihedral. This inference is based on Donaldson's description and the fact that we found a sling set up for a pendulum on Astrohulk a few pitches above the terrace.

Also, on the FA of Polish Route, we rapped off the back after we reached the ridge. Brutus and Pat Brennan finished it to the summit years later. That's a good long route.

Alpine and Cultureshock, nice work on those phototopos.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2011 - 06:24pm PT
Hulk Bump!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jun 30, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
no no no, you say it like this.... "HULK SMASH!"

:)
Sonic

Trad climber
Central Coast, California
Jun 30, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
How Are the conditions after this last storm? I'm heading out there the 8-10 for the red di. Should I cart in snowshoes/skis/axe-crampon ?
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jun 30, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
No first hand beta here but driving past the Sawtooth ridge the other day, looking up towards the Matterhorn and there was a LOT of snow.

I'm wondering what conditions would be like for high country approaches myself. I think we might be approaching a crappy scenario within the next few days where there is still a lot of snow but it's not getting cold enough for solid freezes at night, so skis or snowshoes might be required on the snow. BUT, the snow can start pretty far from the trailhead so you might have to hump that stuff awhile before you need it. And then when you get to it, you might not even need it.

Any thoughts from the wiser Sierra men and women?
NYZoo

Trad climber
Gunks
Jul 5, 2011 - 07:27am PT
Hulk Bump for conditions.... has anyone been up there?
Sonic

Trad climber
Central Coast, California
Jul 5, 2011 - 11:09am PT
Cultureshock said he was heading out there this last weekend so I'd check in with him or wait till he updates the thread
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 04:03pm PT
I'll have photos up later tonight.

The gist is that there is a TON of snow. The normal bivy sites near the "creek" are under 10 feet of snow. You have to hike up canyon about another 10-15 minutes to find running water (go up and right and follow your ears).

Everyone this past weekend camped around the trees.

There were 5 parties up there from Saturday-> Monday. Saw people on Sunspot, Positive Vibes, Red Dihedral (two groups) and Bee Line.

Make sure to get your permits. Not only is it the right thing to do but we saw a ranger on the hike in. He was very nice and possibly removing fire rings or doing trail work. I was informed at the rangers station that NO FIRES are allowed in Little Slide Canyon.

Weather was WARM. This meant the snow was very soft (easy to hike up, slide down).

From the big trail take the down stream of the two creek crossings. The one seen in the Kate and Brittany post is totally underwater! The logs are pretty easy to cross.

Extra dry socks or Gaiters are suggested due to all the snow. I'm a big fan of snow travel with trekking poles and never ended up using the ice axe we brought.

Go for it!

 Luke
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2011 - 12:38am PT

Looking back at little slide canyon. Parts of this were steep, but easily doable in soft snow.


There was a ton of snow over the normal bivy area. In addition the creek that usually runs was under many feet of snow. Inorder to get water I hiked up the left of the two drainage/gulleys in the photo. A bit out of the way but a good water source.


The snow field goes all the way up to the base but this doesn't affect any of the routes. There is snow in the descent gully which will require kicking steps. This should be easy when the snow is soft.

Go have fun!

 Luke
msiddens

Trad climber
Mountain View
Jul 6, 2011 - 05:56am PT
nice stuff Luke.....looks like a great time. Thanks for posting.
Max Neale

climber
California
Jul 7, 2011 - 12:25am PT
kirkadirka

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Jul 7, 2011 - 02:11pm PT
Lots of snow still on the backside after hitting the ridge on Positive Vibes last week. Be prepared to do some climbing through snow and wet rock for the ridge traverse and final two pitches to the summit.

I did the entire approach in sandals.
noriko nakagawa

Trad climber
los angeles
Jul 8, 2011 - 10:27pm PT
Thanks all for the great photos and conditions reports.
superbum

Ice climber
Bishop, CA
Jul 11, 2011 - 09:21pm PT
Hulk SMASH!
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2011 - 02:31pm PT
Saw and heard of a lot of traffic on Venturi Effect this summer...

Hopefully climbers are being careful of loving the Hulk to death!

Remember to leave no trace!

 Luke
NilsDavis

Trad climber
Bishop
Oct 28, 2011 - 11:10am PT
Glad there's some interest in this. The only reason this topo hasn't been out there is sheer laziness.
This is a great line - one of my favorites.
The timing is a bit off (being november) but here it is nonetheless.
NilsDavis

Trad climber
Bishop
Oct 28, 2011 - 05:48pm PT
By the way, those photo topos look good, but the line representing Venturi is a bit off. The first pitch goes left out the undercling to a stance out on the triangular slab, not right (to the corner) like those lines you guys drew in.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jul 26, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
Would be awesome if someone created a route map (like the ones The Alpine and cultureshock posted) of all routes on it including beeline polish route and all other established lines...
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
Vitaliy,

I just updated my hulk beta page and it should have just about everything you need to climb at the Hulk. I've got topos of most routes and I'm working on another route map (I even grabbed your photo of the Solar Flare Topo). If you have an questions/comments/corrections let me know.

Tons of hulk beta:

http://www.dreaminvertical.com/2012/07/incredible-hulk-101-tips-tricks-and-beta/

Here's the latest version of the my Hulk photo topo. Not even halfway done. I'll try to put some more time into it.


Orange - Sunspot
Pink - Positive Vibrations
Blue - Airstream (work in progress)
Green - Ventauri Effect
Yellow - Tradewinds
Purple - Eye of the Storm

Enjoy,

Luke
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jul 26, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
Great page Luke. Do you know if there are any other routes on the right side of the Hulk aside from yours, Fallen Leaf, Fallen Dihedral, RD, and Beeline?

As I understand Fallen Leaf goes up the big dihedral which is just to the left of the crack system that is the Beeline?
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 26, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
It seems that Fallen leaf is very close to Bee Line. I think your statement is correct. There is an approximate line drawn on this photo:


Photo from the Secor book. Some more info here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=u0sc6cgA1IUC&lpg=PA3&dq=inauthor%3A%22R.%20J.%20Secor%22&pg=PA468#v=onepage&q=Hulk&f=false

I think it is worth buying the book based on how much you climb in the Sierra.

I've only heard of the West Face de Klerk Brugger via Secor. It seems like a very natural line just to the right of Red Dihedral and Lost in the Sun. After the first pitch or two I believe it follows a right facing dihedral system.

From the 5th pitch on my route I had a pretty good view down the corners of the West Face. They look pretty nice and vertical but also full of loose blocks. I don't think it has seen many repeats.

I've done Beeline and its a good warmup route for the day you hike in to the Hulk. I think the best rock is on the left side ie Positive Vibrations.

After that route and then Sun-Spot a good linkup is Tradewinds into Astro-Hulk. Keeps the climbing 5.11b or easier, but pretty sustained.

I've yet to do the Polish Route or Escape from Poland. But I hope to in a couple weeks. The cracks look pretty stellar!



If you end up doing either of the "Fallen" routes or the West Face make sure to report back. I'd love to see some more photos of that side of the hulk.

 Luke
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jul 27, 2012 - 02:21am PT
I have that book. Wanted to see if there is something that was not included in it. I have to go back and do Beeline (last year got a bit off route and than stormed off), and want to try the Polish Route if I get ballsy this year. Looks fantastic.

Again thanks for the nice outline on your blog. I saw you climbed with Konstantin. Guy is a character. His facebook photo is a hall of fame type material.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
Ok Here's the current photo topo with almost all of the routes.

It still has some errors as I've not been on all of the routes.

Feel free to make comments!

Hulk Photo Topo (full REZ)!

 Luke
lucho

Trad climber
California
Aug 1, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
Luke you forgot the Nalazak 5.13- ?! its a variation to the Venturi Effect, starts at the belay of the second pitch of Venturi and goes for 70 meters to the rap anchor just below the main ledge. My friend Jake and I made the first ascent of this massive pitch last year and would love for someone to repeat it!

Its the crack/corner above the second pitch of Venturi, goes up to a small roof and into an overhang section into the corner/crack just right of the chimney pitch on Positive. Then it pulls onto the arete for the final 11+ section of the pitch. Mostly thin gear and many draws and slings , like 23 of them. 80 meter rope is better than a 70 unless the belayer wants to simul the first part.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2012 - 07:17pm PT
Awesome! I'm happy to add your line! A while back I had seen some chalk and a bolt to between PV and Venturi and was wondering what the project was. It looked like some wild stemming to a crazy roof. Sweet!

Perhaps you can give me some beta on BlowHard since you were just up there.. I've got a vague idea of where it goes. Did you have a topo?

Have you been on all the routes now? I think I saw you working on Airstream a year or two back. How did that go?

 Luke
lucho

Trad climber
California
Aug 1, 2012 - 08:43pm PT
Blowhard is 7 pitches, the rack is tiny cams to 3 camalot, doubles to 2 if you wish. 80 meter or two ropes to rappel the route. It starts in the crack/corner just left of the Polish route.

Airstream has not gone down for me yet.
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Aug 13, 2012 - 09:46pm PT
Wicked! In between Solar Flare and Airstream there is a variation called Solar Burn- don't know alot about it- but it takes the obvious splitter on the wall below the sunspot. Yeah!
NilsDavis

Trad climber
Bishop
Mar 14, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Has anyone out there done Eye of the Storm? I only know if one repeat in 5 years...and that was with Brent and Andy Puhvel (Brent put it up with me).
Would love some feedback.
Impaler

Social climber
Berkeley
Mar 14, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
What's the crux pitch on it like? I'd love to check it out, but a bit intimidated. Is it possible to bail or pull through on gear at the crux? I'm assuming the crux of the route is in one of the pictures in the alpinist article.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Nils,

I went up the first pitch in 2011 and cleaned out a ton of dirt. Didn't seem like it had been climbed for a good while.

I did the first three pitches last year and the cleaning job seemed to have lured some other traffic. Pretty sure I saw some chalk on at least the first pitch.

The second pitch is pretty scary. Hard to imagine doing it with no bolts. The lack of a third bolt makes the lead not too appealing. Perhaps if the rock cleaned up a bit... I was crimping some pretty friable potato chips! The question my partner and I had was how you guys climbed from the second bolt. Did you keep traversing and then go up, or stick right around/above the 2nd bolt. We both sent the pitch, but climbed much different sections of rock.

The third pitch was super rad and the end was pretty hard. I got super pumped and hung on follow. My partner and I were yet again confused if you guys stayed in the crack or busted out on the arete. We did the later with some crazy face climbing, well above some small cams.

We had already been up on another route in the morning so we ran out of daylight. We left some quicklinks and biners and rapped off with two ropes.

Great photo (not mine) of P3

Vlad, I would be happy to go up there to give it another go this summer. Such a nice long independent line (nice work guys)! Perhaps it would also help to skip the first part and just run up the first few of PV to get a crack at the upper hard pitches. Many ways to skin a cat.

 Luke
Footloose

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
Mar 14, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
Inspiring!
Brian Biega

climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 15, 2013 - 02:57am PT
Hi Nils-

Great job setting up that route! I climbed the first 3 or 4 pitches with John Scott in 2008 or so. Lightning chased us away. Great climbing. Some photos linked below.

Incredible Hulk > Eye of the Storm

Cheers, Brian
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Mar 15, 2013 - 04:07am PT
I am so effing psyched to get back out to the hulk this season!!

Need to redpoint Tradewinds (that crux section felt like 5.12- but maybe cuz its the 8th pitch), need to check out Lost In The Sun. Still curious about Solar Burn. After that there are only 12+ routes... which will be a few more years. I'll climb PV, SS, Polish, and TW over and over again though :D

Anyone that wants to go out there in late April hit me up. My partner is having knee surgery.
jaaan

Trad climber
Chamonix, France
Mar 15, 2013 - 05:31am PT
@ Brian Biega

That's really great how you've put the routes on that photo, Brian. Is that really the start of Positive Vibes? We started up the cracks to the right. It was covered in chalk.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Mar 15, 2013 - 06:42am PT
Brian,

I think you meant this link for Eye of the Storm trip photos:
http://aboutmyadventure.com/directories/s/scott/photos/eots/index.htm

Very nice photos!

(I didn't realize some of the text links on the page were clickable when
the white hand cursor appears).
Brian Biega

climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:10am PT
Hi Clint-

Hope all is well! I have updated the link/links above.

Will have to get back out climbing sometime!

Hi jaaan- I guess there are a few ways to get up there... I have not been up there for a few years. Need to go again soon.

Cheers, Brian
JakeW

Big Wall climber
CA
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:47am PT
Yo Nils. Matt and I did Eye a few years back. Was awesome! I fell once on the crux and Matt onsighted. I found a pitch or two leading to the crux a bit scary.

On a different note, Lucho and I would love for someone to repeat our route Nalazak which is mentioned above. Apparently we didn't spray enough and no one else has enjoyed it yet, that we know of. It's really good. It's also pretty sheltered from the winds, and only a pitch up...a good option for those days when the weather is less than ideal or you're too relaxed to worry about summiting.
NilsDavis

Trad climber
Bishop
Jun 12, 2013 - 01:51am PT
Jake I'm not sure what pitches you found leading to the crux a bit wobbly. Surprised you'd say that, but if you are, then I'm sure my memory is a bit warped, cuz you'd know. Yea, I guess there are a few spots that are "engaging." Although we tried to minimize that.
Nalazak sounds super quality. Has anyone repeated that yet?
How's the activity at the Hulk this year? Seems like it'd be way busy up there with such a dry winter/spring.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Looks to be a super busy season for the Hulk. Hopefully people are playing by the rules and getting a permit.

There were 7 parties on Positive Vibes this past Saturday... Insane!

Eye of the Storm saw a little bit of traffic.

Grabbed this shot from Tradewinds:


Enjoy,

Luke
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:45am PT





cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 10:43am PT
A few more photos to entice people to get on Nalazak:



Enjoy,

Luke
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
The best place to look is here:

http://www.dreaminvertical.com/2012/07/incredible-hulk-101-tips-tricks-and-beta/

Here is a Solar Flare topo

I'm going to try Solar Flare in two weeks so I can give out some updated info then.

The gist of it is a few crack pitches followed by 4 mostly bolted pitches.

The Bolted pitches are in the 5.12a-12d range. You can rap the route with a 70m rope but the raps are very close (tie knots). The stations are a bunch of tat but I plan on cleaning that up in two weeks.

At the end you want to swing over the the P2 anchor of Blowhard and rap into the gulley. You may have to do a little down climbing to get to the P2 anchor and a little more 4th class off the back if you only have a 70m rope.

 Luke

EDIT: (Vlad did you delete your post?)
Impaler

Social climber
Berkeley
Jul 10, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
Thanks for all the info, Luke. Yeah, I watched the video again and realized the topo is sort of in there already. That's plenty of info to do the route. Thanks for the rap recommendations. I think we'd use a tag like and would be able to do 60 m raps. Nobody wants to climb with a pack (-: The route looks fun! Have a good time in two weeks!
NilsDavis

Trad climber
Bishop
Jul 21, 2013 - 12:59am PT
Damn Luke! That's amazing. Seven parties on Positive Vibes? Someone climbing Eye of the Storm?
What is the story back there this year? Permits are required?
Jake, Nalazak looks sicko. I looked at that line when up there before. Looks plenty action-packed. There are still more lines up there. Mostly variations, but they look damn good.
Has there been any new pitches going down this or last year? Seems like the activity - new activity - has diminished of late.
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
The seven parties were at the Hulk on the last weekend before the permit quota started.

~ June 28th until mid September they only issue 8 entry permits per day. 4 of those are available for reservation. Before this you can self register at the Bridgeport ranger station.

I don't think any new routes are going up. I agree there are more pitches to do. I've seen some parties in odd places on the spires across the canyon. Seems like there is potential there for new routes. Haven't heard any reports though.

The first two parties, that I know of when up Lost in the Sun this past weekend. Psyched for that!

More people are starting to get on the harder routes. Venturi is super popular in this department.

I bet a few shorter routes could be done on the left side of the hulk, but it is more work than people are willing to do.

Someone asked me if there was a good info on all the base routes.

Here you go:




 Luke
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
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More Solar Flare beta:

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/solar-flare/108253019

We swapped out most of the tat and biners for chains and rings. Go get on it!

enjoy,

Luke
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jul 30, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
Did anyone repeat The Bard Harrington Suicide route? Where the hell does that go up. Saw the description in Secor but did not make much sense, since astrohulk is right of it, but only tradewinds and venturi close by to the left. Didn't see much space for another route...but I didn't look to carefully. Seems like an independent line though.
alpinist

Trad climber
tahoe city
Sep 5, 2014 - 04:30pm PT
richard leversee and I repeated the Bard-Harrington in 1988. It was during that ascent that I got the first idea of what became the Astro Hulk line. their original line (we had an old topo Bob had given richard) started on the right side of the triangular recess, went up the chimney pitch then moved right over near by where astro-hulk and tradewinds now goes then pendulumed left into the left facing corner on the opposite side of the pillar where the enduro pitch of Astro hulk goes. Leversee and I went up there to free it, which we did all except for the 30 foot pendulum section. I recall the crack above the swing being very gritty and not that fun to free...we were getting pretty carved up as night was coming on...before the swing I looked up the right facing corner at that time and thought...hmmm? and eventually went back in 1996 with Mike Davis to climb it. Astro-hulk is an all free compilation of pitches from the Bard-Harrington Suicide route, The Donaldson Aid route and we added some new climbing including the Enduro pitch which caps off the route. On my original topo I called Astro-Hulk a free "link-up" rather than a "new" route as it was mostly just freeing and combining existing pitches with a couple of new pitches.

There is an image on this thread from 2013 that outlines many of the base pitches (titled "cragging" at the Hulk" hmmm...?) of various routes which is fairly accurate as far as location and grade but not as accurate historically as far as route names associated with those pitches. no big deal, but as an example, everyone pretty much assumes that Positive Vibrations starts over on the left side of the triangular recess and that IS the most popular, fun and accepted start, but what is usually called the first 4 pitches of PV is actually the first 4 of Astro-Hulk...they intersect at the big "bivy" ledge midway up the wall. Bob Harrington helped clarify some of this earlier in this thread as well. Maybe someday when the dust settles out there a comprehensive collection of route topos and some historical background and fun first ascent stories would be cool to compile..?

BTW, a couple of days ago Peter Croft, Andy Puhvel and I completed a mostly independent line of 8 new well protected pitches on the Hulk that goes directly up the steep terrain in between Airstream and Astro-Hulk/Positive Vibrations. Lots of good, varied and sustained climbing with mostly comfy belays and tops on the last pitch of PV about 30 feet from the Venturi raps. it's pretty clean as it stands now, but having a few more sets of fingers on it would help...a name is still being kicked around and the grade stands at four pitches of 5.11 and four of 5.12.

cheers!

Dave Nettle
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Sep 5, 2014 - 05:43pm PT
New Hulk route! Thanks!!!!
JakeW

Big Wall climber
CA
Sep 5, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
Nice job on the new route guys! Glad someone finally climbed those amazing features. We thought of taking Nalazak up through that region but by the time we finally sent that one pitch we were pretty worn out on the proj. Can't wait to see the topo and get up there someday!
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 5, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
When you come up with a name please share the detailed topo on yellow paper we all know you've got!

Thanks for sharing, this thread is awesome.
Grippa

Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
May 11, 2015 - 09:57am PT
Hulk smash!! Anyone been up lately? Heading over soon, and I'm getting way to psyched.
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