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Rob_James
Ice climber
Aoraki/Mt. Cook Village, New Zealand
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2009 - 10:49pm PT
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Oi Porkchop. Thanks for your thoughts. I dig the freedom of thought thing.
Have you done much training with the Gym Jones crew? You write as though you've done a little more than just web searching.
Can you tell us a little about the succesful athletes you've trained? There must have been a few given your 6 year testament. Why did you stop?
I'm also wondering what trusted sources you'd suggest we head to that are a "LOT" cheaper?
Mark recently posted a great article on plateaued development with suggestions as to how to get things roaring again. The anecdotal and empirical results of his athletes suggest that "generic" or complicated are not the way forward for climbing lighter, faster, stronger, higher.
Marks' approach is certainly not just for the elite or the exclusively aspiring to such. He presents the knowledge gained from training dedicated athletes - as they provide the internet a more reliable source.
Send him an email if you've any questions. Mark and the team are brilliantly helpful.
Groovy
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 31, 2009 - 11:37pm PT
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Yeah Rob
I guess if ones aspiration in life is to become godzilla then Gimmy Jones would be the ticket.
I'm pretty damn comfortable being mort meek myself though .....
groovy
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
the base of the Shawangunk Ridge
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Never done any training with the Gym Jones crew.
I actually am not, nor did I claim to be a trainer of elite athletes. I have however spent most of the time working with very average people. My observations are based on watching some make progress and other come in and bail. I am citing general principals of fitness not saying that there is anything wrong with specific methodology. I am suggesting that it might be a tad esoteric.
Guys like Eric Horst put out a huge volume of stuff for free as well as writing books that are largely comprehensive(and cost a lot less than 500) would seem to be adequate for me and most other average and even some above average folks.
I own Twights book on Alpinism which I enjoyed and I re-read it frequently because he definitely packs a lot of information into it. All these options cost much less and IF followed diligently would likely produce results comparable to those of GJ.
Lack of diligence is a bigger drawback than lack of exercises/techniques.
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Heloise Pendergrast
Social climber
Tahoe City
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Jan 19, 2011 - 01:28pm PT
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I have to admit when I first visited Twight's site I was intimidated and, well--yes, appalled. but then again i've always been both simultaneously appalled and attracted to anything he creates. anyway, I've never "trained" for climbing and have always been a nay-sayer to this type of gym crap. I was not going to sacrifice a minute of time outdoors to swing a kettle-freakin-ball around a stinky gym. I felt superior when i told others that the way i trained for climbing was simply to climb...but then eventually i had to admit all i ever did were the same routes over and over again, congratulating myself for looking amazing firing a 5.10 wide crack in front of visiting climbers at my home crag (which of course they didn't know i had done 100 times before), and reminisce about that Big Wall route i did way back when...
Eventually age got in the way, and those damn snowy winters began to catch up with me. The final straw that sealed the deal was a debilitating back injury and a muffin proud top enough to appear on Biggest Loser. Regardless of the fact that I was sure that they must have a "NO GeRLZ ALoUD" sign on the Gym Jones clubhouse door, I forced myself to drink the Kool Aid and begin to methodically build strength in my core.
The benefits of having committed one full year to this style of cross-training at Truckee's Garage Gym have been too numerous to count and are not limited to the physical.
groovy indeed.
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Trad climber
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Jan 19, 2011 - 01:43pm PT
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Spamtastic! Impressive stable of alpine climbers though.....
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