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Boulder climber
the greasewood ghetto
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 9, 2009 - 12:41am PT
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I thought there was already a thread for this , but I couldn't find the magic search-term , so I figured I'd post it up anyway with one finger on the delete button at all times . In my short time here Captain or Skully is the only one who I was concious of saying he was leaving - and hasn't posted since (?) .
I found a thread by Standing Strong with a similar theme , But not sure he/she actually left (link) . http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=267499&msg=269237
Have heard about crowley in the past-tense , and t*r once said she was outta here , but didn't leave .
Klaus was rumoured gone , but recently posted a new thread . And I wasn't sure if anyone has actually been permanently banned by admin or not . I'm curious about who you all remember either quitting , threatening to quit or being permanently ' kicked ' . Thanks for any comments . (edit) Hardman Knott said "DONE w/this site" (mild threat)
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Crowly, got the boot.
Jody, hasn't been back (under that name), since he bailed, I think,
a family member of mine is threatening to run away, at least on a conditional level...
every one else either finds their way back or kind of fades away...
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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There was this dude named Rajmit here once.
He did all three. Trifecta!
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Standing Strong == t*r
I for one am glad she never really left.
Mountain Man. well.... he "quit" but that's a whole 'nother story.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Nature, your buddy posted last week.... MM
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mountain Man posted again a week or so back.
Singer left, partly inspired by Lois
Jody, Where is he. You always think he's under the next rock but then he ain't!
Peace
Karl
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Karl,
> Jody, Where is he.
I talked to Jody at the Pinnacles last weekend. He's doing fine and I think he's just taking a break from online forum stuff. There's plenty to do in the "real world"....
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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There is life, back there?
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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I also talked to Jody at the Rockpile Rendezvous. He brought his father to the affair as his pop was a ranger at the Pinnacles in the 1970's (maybe earlier than that as well). It was great to meet him in person. He had lots of great stories. He told me to say Hi! to all SuperTopians.
As Clint mentioned Jody is taking a break from SuperTopo.
Bruce
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jody sent me a note recently about some new photos he's posted to his website. They looked like they were both evolved and intelligently designed.
Mountain Man was driven away, once his persona was uncovered by one of the local sleuths.
Someone whose name need not be mentioned got banned for a while for posting very large file size photos of nuclear explosions.
Crowley got banned, and all his posts deleted. No one reads most of those threads in retrospect anyway - almost the only threads from the morgue that get resurrected are about climbing.
Several others have threatened to go away, but apparently abstinence works little better for SuperTopians than it does for horny teenagers.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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I'm taking a break from the Taco too for a while.... dang, there goes that idea!
Eric
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Looks like LEB might be leaving. Too much "poop in the sandbox".
Where did that come from, Lois?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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The taco would be tastier LEB-free, and I would like to see Jody back, but don't think nature wants to see him at a sushifest.
But overall this place seems to be almost mellow enough for people to tolerate each other in realspace.
I don't mind seeing Cmac step on the dicks of hatemongers, but we could use a little nudity. WTF is up with THAT?
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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I'm leaving...
...on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again, oh babe I hate to go
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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but we could use a little nudity. WTF is up with THAT?
Well, yeah, maybe a little. Just have to be careful tho, cuz Locker got sent to the corner for a two-month cooling off for getting carried away with that.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Pat Ament falls in one/some of those categories.
Also Matisse (though she posted recently) is largely gone which is a big loss for all of us.
HoldPlease2 - haven't seen her around much which is another big loss.
Speaking of losses - Ed Hartourni, though he's not gone entirely. Just gone too much for my taste. A quality poster if there ever was one.
The Nolans - weren't they escorted off the premises (sorry if I'm incorrect about this one)?
I've sworn it off lately due to all the crap as well. However I am clearly weak and here everyday. My tolerance has definitely taken a hit though.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Hi Crimper,
Enjoyed your post bumps lately.
What do you mean about Pat? Just curious.
Arne
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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I spoke to Kate the other day, and she said things are not Bad with her. I planted a Seed in her mind about climbing this spring, and I think it will germinate.
How quickly you guys forget the one person who used somewhere between nine and eleven fake user names to flame me, among others. It was perplexing to me that so many "people" suddenly "hated" me for no apparent reason. It made no arithmetic sense, too many detractor fish in too small an internet pool. Result: Banned forever.
You know, it's really hard to get banned from a virtually unmoderated site, but this guy managed to make it happen. What is even more perplexing is why anyone would go to such lengths to tell so many lies.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there all... say, nice to know that jody is doing stuff with his dad...
honor our elders and love them while we can...
say, L, didn't quit, but we miss reading her stuff....
someone said it may be ??head aches?
sure am wishing her well....
*also, say, jody bought some books from me, for seizure awareness month, or just as tad before, and shared a link for his book, for those that wonder how's he's doing, you might like that... i will go look for it...
i have been here a near? about two years, but i too, have seen the "i quit" post... sure miss folks, though, everyone is speical in there own way...
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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I am another one who is contemplating a departure.
The only way to stay on the front page around here is to post about death, LEB, Obama/Bush, or some other highly inflammatory subject. These threads can easily garner 3,4,500 posts, because we love to hear ourselves argue.
None of these folks make one iota of progress changing anyone else's mind, because reasonable discussion quickly leaves the room, to be replaced by more and more vitriolic flaming.
I have witnessed many good climbing/adventure threads and topics disappear off the front page after 8-15 posts. Even first ascent stories can't compete with the bullsh*t threads.
I pesonally have had a couple climbing threads with hours of scanning and editing involved make it to near 100 posts, but only because of numerous bumps of my own.
I'm a genuinely nice guy who has posted about climbing, adventure, family, art/music and welcome threads. It's just too boring for the short attention spans and the big tabloid which this place is becoming. Nice guys finish last.
Russ left for awhile because of this stuff.
Tarbuster has scaled way back and it's not just because of his tendons.
Big Kahuna somehow departed all at once and has not resurfaced.
Buggs has limited attendance because of this B.S.
Rox may be on his way out as evidenced by his recent posts.
I will probably be unable to quit completely without a 12 step program, but I don't think I'll be wasting my time with hours of scanning.
I may cut and paste this very post into other threads from time to time, just so a few more folks will get a chance to read how I really feel. That plus the fact that people don't even scan back two pages to find out what the current yelling is about, they post their 2 cents based on the 4 posts before theirs.
Thanks Biotch.
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UncleDoug
climber
No. Lake Tahoe, CA
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Jeff,
A campfire where YOU piss on it to TRY put it out.
But all that happens is a bad smelling cloud of steam...
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Growing Up and Wings of Steel were highly inflammatory.
It just proves my point.
Are you saying that it's worth it to the guy who puts so much work into scanning and editing?
Most participants don't do anything but post text, or the occasional photograph.
Where would we be without the folks who are willing to put some real effort into creating a photo thread?
Lois's Law- currently 165 posts (No offense Karl)
Salinity Of The Hudson- currently 325 posts
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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There is a really deep hole for putting away all the ugly things in the world.
It used to be pretty empty, but the last few years it started filling up really fast.
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dougs510
Social climber
down south
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Tw#t
BURT BRONSON
Dr. Kodos
Can't think of anymore just off the top of my head.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Was TW#T banned? I always enjoyed his/her posts.
Some old timers take this internet shyte a little too seriously.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Vulva, Wyoming
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True dat survival....
THIS PLACE SUCKS FUKKIN ASSS.
Why anyone would take any time to add actual content is beyond me. Between the whiners, the Lois leg humpers, the haters, the wolf f*#ks, the Hamas fluffers, the pinkos, the jebus nuts, the right wing maniacs, the teachers union gougers, the Obama kool aid drinkers...... it is a near endless list of non climbing bullshiit that is easy to get sucked into. On that note, I don't know whether to quit, or post a pic of Ruth Buzzy......
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Actually, I kinda miss BURT BRONSON. He was a Real Man, in a virtual unreal sorta way...
...and speaking of ellipses ...
... where's Ricardo lately ...
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WBraun
climber
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LOL Russ hahahaha
Too fuking funny .....
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Feckin' AAAA Russ,
You got me gaggin' up a lung again! You're one of the reasons to stick around....
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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I'm with ya Survival, I'm trying to quit too...it's an insidious addiction this place. I've cut way back too, but not enough. Just think if we spent this much time developing friendships and relationships in our proximate communities.
I need a 12-step program too, don't kid yourselves. ST is an addiction, not much different than a monkey, food and a lever!
Maybe we could start a "Support Group Thread" to help us quit...LOL! Guess that sorta defeats the purpose doesn't it.
Nice pics of your daughter's btw, go make copies and put them up at your local library or stores or enter them in a local contest...bet you'd get better feedback, same with your sister's too! Thx. for sharing.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Right on Russ! But you gotta admit the odd chihuahua and dwarf story doesn't hurt. All climbing and no spewing makes the Taco Stand a dry place.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Vulva, Wyoming
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Poor Crowley.... waaaaaaahhhh!
You CrowleyApologists™ are a riot. He got what he deserved.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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many points here...
my presence is reduced because I really don't have anything to say on most of the OT posts... really, that's not why I spend time here.
This year, as was observed by both Peter H. and DR, I've been beset with many of the signs and symptoms of old age. Please listen carefully all you young people out there: getting old does change your body, you cannot continue to rely on the regenerative properties of youth once youth escapes you. That means a much more deliberate attention to keeping a total fitness level, not just a climbing fitness level. So I haven't been climbing nearly as much as I'd like, and consequently, I haven't been posting about climbing I haven't been doing.
I've got a couple of projects in the hopper, once I post the results I'm sure I'll get the canonical 20 posts and then have the thread dive to the bottom of the list... but obviously I don't post because the attention I receive...
But really, as I stated on some other thread recently by donini, the value of STForum is the first person perspective of climbing spanning back to the late 50s that is available from participants. It is the starting point for much of history, and it certainly fills out the necessarily limited views we have gotten from wonderful bards like Steve Roper over the years.
The political/social/etc stuff is just not going to be of value, ever... it is not why people go to STForum. I don't advocate change, but there is a breakdown of the modern social contract not to masturbate in public... but practice makes perfect, so if there is no really good intercourse to be had about climbing, go at it on the OT, by all means, but don't forget the real purpose and value.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Don't get me wrong - Pat Ament is still here, but if you recall, he did quit for a while.
Like Survival says, a 12 step program is needed to really stop this stuff. Anyone know when and where the first meeting is?
Edit: Nah, a 12 step isn't needed - at least not for me. If the boat keeps taking on water as it seems to be, I'll jump ship myself.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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"Lois leg humpers"?
That's it, I'm outta here.
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dougs510
Social climber
down south
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@ atchafalaya:
don't think tw#t was banned.... just sort of went away (I guess)
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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uhm, tmjesse, Crowley physically threatened people, not a joke at all. He prolly didn't mean it, but you just can't go around threatening people, online or other wise.
Me? I'm a hasbeenwannabeneverwas who still loves climbing.
My ignore button has always worked just fine.
But, it is time for me to go back a few pages, which I do all the time, and bump some good TR climbing posts, like Crimpies Mexico tr. (Later, I gotta get ready for a date, who is probably bummed to see me still on here this afternoon, argh this is addictive!)
Last winter, I spent a whole night in a funk over the politco threads and bumped a front pages worth of climbing related.
Good stories and TR's are stand alone reading material, not a lot of comments to be had besides Great Story! Awesome pics, thanks! and the like.
survival, you're stuff gets read plenty, too bad we don't have visit counters on the threads. I for one will try harder to bump those threads with some sort of comment.
Frankly, I've been unemployed and depressed, this sight helps keep my woes in perspective.
Thanks everyone!
oops, is it my 17" screen that made this too wide? It does that sometimes, sorry. Have no idea how to fix it.
NO! it was fattrads picture!
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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hossjulia, for the record, it was A. Crowley that was threatened with physical violence if he showed up at the Facelift. The perpetrator never showed. Crowley certainly offended some people here, but he never threatened anyone with harm. I’ll bet it is some petty, valley feud from the 70’s to early 80s that sparks the anger in some to this original park bum and climber. Anyone else here party in the meadow with him, say 35+ years ago?
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:03am PT
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Wow, you hardly ever see pretty sneezes like that.
Usually they're all gross and scarey!
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aguacaliente
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 03:45am PT
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I mostly just lurk here and am not much of a climber, more a hiker. But I do like reading the trip reports and seeing the pictures and also the stories and old photos folks have from back in the day.
For somebody like survival who is considering leaving because good topics slip off the front page, I may not be responding to your posts (because I have not much to say other than "Wow") but know that I'm reading them, and I'm sure many others are. Also, even if a story slips off the front page, it still comes up in a search or google. I have learned a lot by searching up old threads.
An online community is what people do with it. It is not hard to recognize and ignore the OT threads. On the other hand, if the good content leaves, the community will wither.
Just in the past few days, Donini, for example, has started some discussions that take my breath away. People will be able to search and read those years from now as long as CMac keeps the site up. No one will ever be interested in reading through all of an old politics flamewar or clash-of-egos thread, and so in the long run they die even if they take up space on the front page now.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the end of the world as we know it, & I feel fine.
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Apr 10, 2009 - 04:43am PT
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The forum is what it is and what you want to make of it.
There are plenty of great threads out there. The simple structure of the interface does make it such that good stuff gets bumped below the last thirty threads. And I like the clean simplicity of the forum UI for the most part.
But I must have twenty to thirty threads in separate browser windows or tabs that I have had around for months waiting to be read. Quality, engaging climbing stuff for the most part.
I find I am just cutting back on the current stuff to clear out my backlog of "goodies."
The quality is there. Sometimes you gotta hike a bit to get to the fun routes. Not everything good can be belayed off of the bumper of your car.
Slight drift: How many modern cars can you actually use the bumper to belay from anymore? :-)
Eric
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 10, 2009 - 09:27am PT
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hey there all... say, i have found that one keeps swimming upstream, as a good trout ought...
well, you have some really wonderful gems here... (i know, folks like me, can clutter front page at times, but try not to, too often)...
but if the high-quality treasure-posters stop, why in a sense, some GREAT history will stop...
i have learned quality stuff here, that i would never have seen the likes of anywhere....
and other posters have shared from their heart, on wonderful trips, even if small trips, some may be...
now, i know, in all type gatherings, etc, there is a time when the talk goes down hill--yet, if one takes a sit and waits, the tide will change, and new power can come in with waves of freshness....
sure hope that you stick around, survival, and also...
russ, and werner, and all you all that were here when i first came... crimpergrrl and some many more, too much to name, you all have a special and wonderful talent and art...
check in on occasions, and...
through another log on the fire... :)
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Apr 10, 2009 - 09:44am PT
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I certainly appreciate some of what I'm seeing here.
fletcher says: " The quality is there. Sometimes you gotta hike a bit to get to the fun routes. Not everything good can be belayed off of the bumper of your car."
I love that.
Welcome lurker Aguacaliente! Those are some nice thoughts.
Sometimes no comment except "nice", or, "I was wondering about that" is needed, but the bump helps the quality threads stick around a little longer. I'm not talking about my stuff, I'm talking about any climbing related, good story, historical, or photo driven trip report threads.
In the cooker at this very moment is Dave trying to get going in Baffin Island and Pasang starting out on Everest. You're right, Donini's stuff, Warbler's stuff, Deuce's stuff, Russ's Hueco TR, Tarbuster's TR's. Their shizz is far superior to my own.
Right on Ed, well said, just like a "smart" guy should put it.
And thanks to you too neebee, the coolest non-climber chick around!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Apr 10, 2009 - 09:49am PT
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Many (most?) of my posts are similar to: "nice TR" "cool photos" "thanks for sharing."
I don't do this because I feel the need to be heard. Instead, these posts are prompted by a conversation I had with Elcappics in the valley a couple of years ago.
I stopped by to say hi and to tell him how much I LOVED his threads. I mean, I looked forward to it every single day. He said thanks but that he thought he was going to stop since no one ever said anything. He put a lot of work into them, and they disappeared almost immediately. He thought no one cared.
I then realized that it's important to just say thanks. It let him know they were looked at and appreciated. And it bumped the thread so others would know it was around.
So, please, add the "wow" or whatever. It does a world of good imo.
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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Apr 10, 2009 - 10:31am PT
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Crimpergirl wrote: So, please, add the "wow" or whatever. It does a world of good imo.
I try to do this, too.
Sewellymon wrote:
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
Seriously, though. I'm sorry if Crowley had his feelings hurt. But I mean honestly, I'd rather lose 100 Crowleys (people who are mostly here to stir up the muck), or 100 random nobodies like myself, than one single Ed H or his ilk. People like Ed are the backbone of this site.
Chiloe used to post a lot on rc.com. He left a huge hole when he stopped going. A lot of quality people stopped posting there. When a site gets above a certain signal to noise ratio, it simply loses its soul.
I do wish that all the folks who like to banter here would keep that in mind. I'm not in favor of anything more draconian than people just keeping their own actions in mind, and minimizing the amount of non climbing-related "content" they put out. Or, at least, to try to balance it with real content.
I know that whenever I get caught up in some nonsense thread about religion or whatever, I always try to make up for it by publishing some photos (I put a lot of work into them) or a trip report. Being just a weekend warrior of no great skill, I don't have amazing stories to tell, but I do what I can.
GO
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 10, 2009 - 10:34am PT
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Crimper, Ed, nice posts by both of you.
Unfortunately, web forums don't have kill files. Remember kill files and that wonderful *PLONK* sound?
There's lots of good stuff here, classic stuff like DonC's great Big Rock thread, for instance.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Apr 10, 2009 - 10:52am PT
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GoClimb - that's funny! And though I'm not into that sort of thing, her breasts definitely deserve a big WOW! :)
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Apr 10, 2009 - 11:06am PT
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I'll second that "Wow" Crimpie...and they look "natural" too, so natural, that they're almost unrecognizeable...ok, maybe that's a "STRETCH"...LOL!
Who is that anyways? Sorta recognize her...but can't place the name?
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Apr 10, 2009 - 11:10am PT
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Thread drift toward a beautiful chest...I love it.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Apr 10, 2009 - 11:55am PT
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So, Wow.
Another thread that I had passed over repeatedly just from the title, finally looked, read it all, got touched deeper than I thought by real insight and engagement.
This place is better than the sidewalk, where half a glance shows eyes so dull I wouldn't risk a "Hi." Even lightly bantering with you guys I usually get tickled by some pretty clever stuff.
Yeah it's addictive, and yesterday when our communications were all down here cuz someone put a knife to the FiberOptic cable I actually got more writing done, the kind I do for a living. But climbing is addictive too, and so is the legacy of climbing and this is one of the best places I've ever found for that part. Looking back on my time here, it's worth it both coming and going to elucidate some of what has gone before and made us and our art what it is.
And the Current Events debates, battling toward our collective future -- I like those in a bit more guarded way because they are messier with so much yelling. But enough to stick around and it was worth it to me just one year ago to pour time and energy into the GU thread. There were times when either Coz or I could easily have stalked off with smoke pouring out our ears -- or done worse. But I heard just enough listening to keep at it. And now a year later on the "Tell us a Story" thread we got treated to the inner journey up Southern Belle I had begun to despair of ever hearing. And the understanding between us rose to a -- dare I say? -- spiritual level. Cool.
I'm sticking around, and my Ignore button works fine too, thanks.
Interesting the bygone folks who got brought up. Jody right away. He emails once in awhile, invited me to the Pinnacles shindig. Can't seem to get over my aversion, to the so-called stone there, though I love to hike once in awhile. Back on Jody, Mighty Hiker got off one of the best Taco lines ever, so subtle, about his photos: "They looked like they were...intelligently designed."
And I too have a soft spot for t*r. Who doesn't? She's got such an ear for current vernacular. A young German girl visiting here and one of the first local phrases I taught her was "stunna shades." And I'm still chuckling weeks later over
"Face like LA and a booty like Oakland."
Cheers, All
DR
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 10, 2009 - 11:56am PT
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Being just a weekend warrior of no great skill, I don't have amazing stories to tell, but I do what I can.
Not being an internationally known badass climber does not mean your posts aren't worthwhile. One of the great benefits of many of the TRs here is that they show us places we would otherwise not get a look at. The fact that you (or me, or anybody) are on an easy climb doesn't mean the rest of us can't look at the picture and go "Wow! I gotta get to that place!"
There are a lot of reasons for coming to Supertopo, and hearing the famous old guys yarn about what it was like bitd is only one of them.
I guess the one thing I don't understand is why some folks seem to come here for the sole purpose of yelling at each other about politics and religion. If they were participating regularly in the climbing threads and only ocasionally went out of control about Jews or Republicans or Musliims or Liberals or whatever, then maybe they'd be easier to take, but when the shouting matches are their only contribution, we'd be better off without them.
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matisse
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 12:19pm PT
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when the shouting matches are their only contribution, we'd be better off without them.
exactly my thought. which is why I don't think neebee need question her presence here all all.
Me, I'm a big baby. I don't like being flamed and I get all pouty when someone calls me mean things over a trip report. That, plus the political garbage, plus my job getting insane again meant that I decided that I wasn't going to be that active here.
A turd button where you could downward bump crap off the front page would be helpful.
or the kill file. I miss usenet, but I haven't gone back to rec.climbing since MH2 and pip came over here.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Apr 10, 2009 - 12:28pm PT
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I think that the solution to getting rid of the totally off topic malicious BS, is to just not post to those, and just focus on the climbing stuff. Thats my new peaceful mantra as far as I know. ommmmmmm
but it someone flames me, I am still going to kick their ass and shove a 3" cam sideways up.....sorry, sorry I get so carried away. ommmmmmmmm
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Apr 10, 2009 - 12:36pm PT
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Great posts you guys.
It makes me want to gasp**
Post a climbing picture!!!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Apr 10, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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Since Matisse is now checking this thread, I'll post a pic too:
Remember this guy Sue?
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matisse
climber
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:09pm PT
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I think the hair color is probably a dead giveaway, but he was a shorthair when I was knew him. J.W. I suspect.
I met him when I went to buy a hot pink Millet pack at MEC . I already had a red one but the pink one was so much cooler I sucked someone into buying my old one and bought the pink one 100% for its color.
Man that pack was brutally uncomfortable. I was glad that I finally beat it to death cragging in Josh about 15 years later.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Apr 10, 2009 - 01:26pm PT
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Ed wrote
"This year, as was observed by both Peter H. and DR, I've been beset with many of the signs and symptoms of old age. Please listen carefully all you young people out there: getting old does change your body, you cannot continue to rely on the regenerative properties of youth once youth escapes you. That means a much more deliberate attention to keeping a total fitness level, not just a climbing fitness level. So I haven't been climbing nearly as much as I'd like, and consequently, I haven't been posting about climbing I haven't been do"
Dude, to satisfy your taste for obscure adventure without killing your meat suit, Less OW, more Slab. More dancing, less wrassling, (don't listen to Russ, he made a deal with satan or his authorized representative)
Plenty of short approach calf-stretching adventures for old guys remain!
Peace
Karl
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GOclimb
Trad climber
Boston, MA
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Apr 10, 2009 - 02:23pm PT
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Ghost wrote: Not being an internationally known badass climber does not mean your posts aren't worthwhile. One of the great benefits of many of the TRs here is that they show us places we would otherwise not get a look at. The fact that you (or me, or anybody) are on an easy climb doesn't mean the rest of us can't look at the picture and go "Wow! I gotta get to that place!"
Thanks, I appreciate that, and I agree!
Philo: Your argument is basically that it's CMac's fault for not structuring the forum in the best possible way. That doesn't fly with me. All of us are responsible for the content here every day. Blaming someone else, especially the guy who pays the bills to keep the site running is totally bogus. For now, the site is the way it is, and many good people with good content are fed up about the worthwhile content being driven off by political etc threads. So, you (me, all of us) have a choice. Ignore their concerns and keep at it, or listen to them and minimize the off-topic stuff.
With that said, I'm done on this thread for now. Next thing I post will be climbing related.
GO
PS - I have no problem emailing someone when I want to reply to them, but don't think everyone needs to hear it.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Apr 10, 2009 - 04:35pm PT
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Ray Jardine chipping holds
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Apr 11, 2009 - 02:07am PT
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I can knott think of a better time for a bump...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Apr 11, 2009 - 02:15am PT
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Well I love the last pic. It is more fun to hug, rub and rastle with the rock than not have enough of it there to make love width....heheh. smiles and lovin it, lynne
Edit: learning to sneeze.....hehehe. :D
Double Edit: I'm one year old here on the taco. I love my family. I hope the older bros and sista's will stay with the members. How else can they learn. Ed, I'm not young. Just need to enjoy what the day brings ... body needs to moderate and learn new styles and tricks to make it happen. We are alive and we can climb. :)) Smiles, Lynne
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Apr 11, 2009 - 04:49am PT
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Rest. In. Post.
Philo
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