Min-Ne-Ah: Small big wall for some/big free climb for others


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Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
bobby j who could have foretold that you were in fact merely training for some Arkansas Valley choss! We should meet up in BV sometime and scrape out some cracks. RD

right here, right now
Apr 1, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
This is a REALLY good read.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

Out Of Bed
Apr 1, 2016 - 12:47pm PT
YES, Very good, - (BUMPAGE)


San Jose, CA
Apr 1, 2016 - 01:37pm PT
it is very sad that we can not read Coz comments..

right here, right now
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:29pm PT
Yes it is.
Too bad we can't petition the ethers to restore a few critical threads.

But you know what, all of this probably exists in the way back machine web search function?
The Warbler

the edge of America
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:41pm PT
Good writing Bob!

Sounds like a pile though...

There IS quality unclimbed rock in the Valley, I've heard
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
But you know what, all of this probably exists in the way back machine web search function?
I've already checked there - did not find it.
I think the reason I was able to use archive.org to find Scott's
Southern Belle story is that I had a link to its supertopo URL from one of my web pages.

This (2014) decision by supertopo to sometimes delete all of a user's posts is a very poor one.
Very disappointing and unexpected.
If I had thought they might do something like this, I would have saved all the good stuff when I first read it.
I did save Hank's Southern Belle story to my webpage, since it was so good I didn't want to risk it being lost....
The Warbler

the edge of America
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:53pm PT
I agree Clint.

Totally lame policy.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they've got it stashed. Could be very valuable at some point, and more so because of its unavailability and Scott's passing.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 1, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
What a great write up!!

right here, right now
Apr 1, 2016 - 09:43pm PT
Well, I've recently saved 109 of my threads as MHTML documents.

No, I didn't save this one, and scores of others. Besides recently saving everything that I created, I just did a few others randomly, back when the forum was really hopping.

That's how much I trust this website. I mean it's fun and stuff, but ... I started getting the feeling I better archive my work off-site.

I DID save the Southern Belle thread through post #177, made by Clint on April 10, 2009.

It clocks in around 5.5 MB. I think that could be a bit big to e-mail without compressing it into a zipped file or some such. But if anybody wants a copy, we could probably figure it out, by using Dropbox.

Here's an example.
A screenshot with Cosgrove's first long post:

And here is a screenshot of the last post from my MHTML archived thread:
(I think saving through that point in the discussion archived everything Scott posted to the Southern Belle thread)


Oakland, CA
Feb 1, 2017 - 09:45am PT
Good god almighty this is one of the best written accounts of a day of climbing on this site. Holy mole!

The mood instantly changed in the couliar.(sp?) It was cold and dark. It smelled different. It smelled like a cave.

Once I read that bit I was snapped in to the telling, right there with you guys and was taking the ride. Damn good stuff, Bob.

I hope your partner has read this, man. Your writing has frozen in amber one glorious performance in one glorious day in the history of obscure Valley climbing. Thanks for sharing!

Trad climber
Feb 1, 2017 - 10:19am PT
Here's are some of Coz's posts from this topic. Let me know if you think any are missing.


Trad climber

Jan 7, 2009 - 11:58pm PT
It was me and Walt who did the FFA, no time to read your story as I am dead tried and have to work about 20 hrs tomorrow. But I will and tell you about our adventure. We name it after Virginia Parker, a native american women who was a great friend to us.

It was her native name and you could see the climb from her house.


Trad climber

Jan 8, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
I remember we did the thing in a day, starting about 5 am out of Walt's van. I led a couple pitches in a row and walt led up to that old bolt. I took over and led that 11d pitch, and belayed and then Walt lead the bolt ladder. He went left at one point and found a hard move or two.

I do remember it being really grainy and feeling lost up there. It was a grand adventure and one of those many crazy climbs with Walt. I was always wanting to climb that wall as it looked a lot better from the ground.

It kick my ass, as it was our first climb that spring. Good job on what probably was the second ascent. I can't for the life of me remember if we had wide gear, all I know is we where both real good on wide back then and probably only had a four friend.

It was a beautiful place to be. I talk to TM Herbert, and he said, "Why the hell'd you go up there for." LOL I love TM, anyone know what's up with him?


Trad climber

Apr 29, 2010 - 09:19am PT
If you guys are looking for another crazy route, check out the Affliction on the North Face of Higher. The first four are very rad as I recall. One pitch is overhanging and your lay backing up four giant stacked blocks. Donīt fall!

The upper part is great, sporting an 11a OW, 11c fist and a hard boulder problem off a ledge. All capped by a huge roof, that ends the climb.

It was another Walt adventure, done the same week as Mi-ne-ah.

I am sure it would go all free at mid 12, hint hint FFA.

Nick Danger

Ice climber
Arvada, CO
Feb 1, 2017 - 10:27am PT
Dood, ewe right gud, pleez dew moore. Seriously, this TR is great prose and a wonderful way to spend some quality daydreaming time. thanks for posting up.

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
Bump for a nice memory and climbing content.

right here, right now
Feb 1, 2017 - 08:05pm PT
Welcome to the forum Tronsite! Excellent job with your first post.

How did you accomplish the retrieval of Scott's deleted contributions?
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