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Sid Mo
climber
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Jan 12, 2018 - 09:08am PT
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stOOpid = OOLicky, secret agent for DEA
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Jan 12, 2018 - 01:46pm PT
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SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Yeah well I just read 'Angels of Light' by Jeff Long and know the whole story! You're were just too slow Licky.
What happened:
One of the Lodestar pilots had an identical twin brother who ends up murdering a bunch of climbers while trying to get the secret cocaine stash back. Plus the hero John gets the woman Liz in the end; at least that's implied. Plus the evil climber Kresinski, who rules Camp 4 with an iron fist, who had gotten the cocaine out of the drowned plane with a scuba outfit and hidden it in a high cave, gets his just reward just after the pack full of cocaine topples off the cliff with him tangled in a rope tied to the pack; they both fall 400 feet and land back in the lake. Kresinski was going to kill John after John accidentally distracted the evil twin brother and allowed him (Kresinski) to brain the bad guy with a large rock. Unfortunately the young, incredibly gifted climber Tucker early on gets axed by the evil twin brother just as he (Tucker) completes the most difficult climb ever attempted in the entire world. Whew! At least Tucker didn't die a virgin, thanks to Katie, who took a shine to the young (18 years old) man.
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Jan 12, 2018 - 02:00pm PT
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is this the longest thread with the least info still?
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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Jan 12, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
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Thanks I thought we would never hear how it ended. What about the climber who got pushed off a trail to his death? That was the part that disturbed me.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 12, 2018 - 04:12pm PT
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What about the climber who got pushed off a trail to his death?
No such thing ever happened.
Did CNN (čřánkl00n news network) report that?
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Sid Mo
climber
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Jan 12, 2018 - 06:36pm PT
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Never understood what was so difficult about laundering money. Just take it all to C4, buy a huge stash of plane weed, and go to Mammoth and sell it to those dudes. Their cash is straight out LA, and thereby unf*#kingtraceable.
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AE
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jan 18, 2018 - 11:45am PT
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Someone should file a FOIA request on Licky, which might provide some insight into this entire nightmare.
I have been compulsively watching "The Curse of Oak Island," and am starting to wonder, if Licky's fabled tome isn't buried at the bottom of the Money Pit.
Or, to be more precise, there is a greater likelihood of finding the Ark of the Covenant, Shakespeare's manuscripts, the Holy Grail, and vast hordes of gold hidden by the Knights Templar in and around Oak Island, than there is the likelihood of Licky ever publishing a book.
In the tone of the show's narrator:
"A rusted bolt? A record of an airplane's registration number? Rumors of untold fortunes made by a seamy group of furtive ne'erdowells, seen lurking in the woods and rocks in the notorious 'Yosemite Valley'? Could this all really be proof, finally, of some vast, global conspiracy between international drug smugglers and secret government agencies bent on subverting everything good God-fearing Americans find holy? Or, will new revelations revive the "Curse of the Valley," as legend says a few dozen more old gray climbers must die before the truth can be finally laid bare. Tune in, same time, next year, for "Airplane Crash in Yosemite."
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Jan 18, 2018 - 01:05pm PT
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Sounds like a cool climber adventure. Wouldve been a cool scuba diver adventure if it had landed in the sea
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 18, 2018 - 01:31pm PT
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The answer to What is Mind is there at Oak Island
The trifecta of answer(s), treasure and the book will win, place and show simultaneously
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Squint
Trad climber
Colorado
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Feb 26, 2018 - 08:44pm PT
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I was sleeping ten feet from Jack the night he left for that rescue. It didn't rain---we were both sleeping out in the open. I would have known. We were to leave the next day to buy property in Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico. We were going to drive his car that his (I think) his mother gave him. It was a red convertible. I will never forget waking to find Jack gone and going to the cafeteria. The word that someone had fallen was already circulating. When somebody said that the victim had a chew in his lip I knew it was Jack.
I find all this BS of being Jacks friend appalling. Jack was an outcast. Few people would give him the time of day.He was a wildman, a freak even by Yosemite standards, a misfit in the Valley scene. He had an inside to Valley goings on as a Park service employee and the crazy guy that hung around the fringes of the valley elite.
Jack and I had many drunken nights together. Chewing Copenhagen, drinking crap liquor and making bad choices. I knew Jack when he was known as "pig". Overweight and naive as any new arrival to the Sierras as I had ever seen. He took on a crazy mountain man persona and took to conditioning himself with a dedication I have never witnessed. Damn--he toughed it out.
But this BS that he was some accepted, known, loved character in the Valley really disturbs me.He wasn't going to be seen bouldering with Kauk or Bridwell, he wasn't going to be seen hanging with any of the Valley elite. Really--they didn't even know his name.
He took "dirtbag" to a level the Stonemasters would have aspired to. He knew how to live like a Mountain Man or maybe he just did it because he didn't have any choice. He was a lovable nutcase, but loved by few.
I was aware of the money he and his buddy found, and I was aware of the documents he found, and I was aware he was going to meet with "an attorney" that was concerned with the documents. But I was not prepared to lose my crazy friend suddenly, on a paved trail that he would have run up blind.
Jeez I'd like to be drinking crap liquor with him right now.
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Feb 27, 2018 - 07:55am PT
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Whoa! This is getting good again. Licky ain't gonna like this. You didn't clear this through him did ya. His sources haven't told it that way atall.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 27, 2018 - 08:02am PT
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The plot thickens...😈
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Feb 27, 2018 - 11:59am PT
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I dont understand why people are so silent on something that happened so long ago.
A bunch of dirtbags made money, bought houses, cars etc..
Unless, those same dirtbags did other "bad" stuff to maintain their
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Feb 27, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
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gifted freebies. Now, THAT would be a worthy thickener of the plot
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Squint
Trad climber
Colorado
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Feb 27, 2018 - 12:40pm PT
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Just for the record...I know the trail is not paved. Just a figure of speech.
I haven't read much of this thread and don't know what you guys are talking about when it comes to differing stories. No matter.
I was Jacks friend and saw him fairly regularly. I was the one that told his girlfriend he was gone.
I knew a little about his background and his mom. I used to see the brand new nice cashmere sweaters she used to send him in the mail. They were black and filthy within days, just like everything else he owned. He was a slob and had a big booming voice you could hear across the valley. The first time I made him laugh, I about came out of my skin from the volume of his guffaw. He chewed Cope constantly and drank with conviction. I've forgotten more mad days and nights with the guy than I remember but they were all entertaining.
I suppose it is unimportant that people only took note of him after his death , it is kind of human nature to do that. It just irks me to read about feigned respect where there was little when he was alive.
For all the talk in those days about the cool of not conforming, there was still little tolerance for a whacko like Jack. Of course, if he had more climbing talent, his presence might have been accepted differently.
The good thing is that none of it mattered to Jack, he was having the time of his life every single day. He didn't mind showing it. I've met very few that were as exuberant about every damn thing as he was.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 27, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
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Squint, were you his girlfriend?
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throwpie
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Feb 27, 2018 - 04:25pm PT
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My two cents about Jack...he was a pretty cool guy, a friend and partner on quite a few climbs...we probably backed off of as many as we did. We shared a common love of climbing based on having fun mostly. I'm not sure if it was lack of talent or desire, but neither of us came close to the standards of the day but we had a blast nonetheless . Haven't thought of him for years, and It terrifies me to imagine his demise. I hope it was just a dream to him.... He was one of those many characters that colored my time in the Valley and I remember them all. RIP
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 27, 2018 - 05:00pm PT
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A friend of mine, an acquaintance, and a guy I didn't know killed another guy in a gone sour drug deal in Otay.
Still puzzling over whether any good came of it. Don't know if there's enough material for a book.
None was named Jack and I never thought to ask if they got the money back.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Marooned, 855 miles from Tuolumne Meadows
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Feb 27, 2018 - 07:01pm PT
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I saw him on the trail just below the lake after his find.
Kevin,
Were you camped on the uphill side of the trail with TT in your group, just down from the lake that night (maybe 1.5 miles)? If so, I stumbled into your camp the same day headed down, just as it got dark. No other campers were just below the lake that day, to my knowledge. Could there have been two wallets? Because, some lone guy (I didn't know Jack) showed me a soaked wallet full of $50's right at the outlet of the lake as I arrived earlier that afternoon. More puzzle pieces. . . .
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Squint
Trad climber
Colorado
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Feb 27, 2018 - 07:32pm PT
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Warbler...what did you say to him when you met him on the trail? What ever it was, it must have scared the sh#t out of him because he buried everything but the money off to the side of the trail on the way down.
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