1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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WBraun

climber
May 20, 2017 - 10:20pm PT
The book has been written.

It just hasn't been put on paper.

Americans remain stoopid ........
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
May 20, 2017 - 10:55pm PT
There was a plane crash?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 21, 2017 - 05:03am PT
Idiot's holding up a Unimog sleeping bag, not an Ibex.
--A no-thumb guy from NF what knows his bags.

Also, for what it's worth, I don't recall any of this story and I deny any involvement.

And that Colombian weed? Hey, for what it's worth, that sh#t was not worth much simply because it did not stay lit.

And we're all idiots for keeping this thread alive.

I'd never have named a cat Sidmo, either.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
May 21, 2017 - 06:57am PT
I've named a cat, climbed in the ditch WAY back,
id'a been seen as work as folks dropped me off & didn't come back

The cat, The Commune, Co-Eds & Pay-Phones

I named a cat and climbed in the ditch way back, id'a been seen as work,
Left off for a day, they, just didn't come back, I camped.
living & learning - A dorm room and pay phones,

1st lets get this in here:



Barry's Resoles
41585 Auberry Road
Auberry, CA 93602

559-855-4511




Two Chillie Katmandu *

The bunk was good to take-with, - it saved - sputtered out

Not Flame out. - ( like when it was fresh, ?no that's a bad word )

Moist - when it smelled and sparked out, the 1sty din'stay lit

Corncob To City Streets,

Top of the hill, bottom of the heap

Two sacks, at least , three meals,

the bulk paid-off a house note or two.

Gunk : . . .Gackweed,
Was easy to pass three 'trays' in the park, 30. to 50 bucks.

This seems both the time and place I was never there neither

Well, not in time or space.



* The Name Of The Cat.





ZB;!
"SUICIDE KNOB?

Cool , tool, IF it folded back out of the way,
Bad,
it would catch on a low hanging arm-hole of a tee-shirt, at half way thru a turning maneuver
Worse yet: in crashes, the ball acted like a blunt post,
that fat round bump, becomes a Puji stick . . . in a crash. . .
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/why-are-suicide-knobs-called-so.321496/
Sid Mo

climber
May 24, 2017 - 07:35am PT
Well that ain't me neither, some brown haired hippie, I was blonder. BUT it sure looks like an
Ibex, wide legroom down the length of the bag like the Ibex. Sorry I didn't get a photo of the bag itself but I didn't know I'd be accused of it's theft or of another crime other than the usual sin crimes we all committed (that have been made quasi-legal of late.) So let this be the last stupid divergence from the plane story if the equally stupid thread somehow lives, although at some point it should drown from it's own weight. One thing for sure, like I said all along, Licky ain't writin' no phuckin' book. What he is really up to is anybody's guess. Maybe a narcissist, maybe a narc, it don't really matter. He's a phony who never climbed a pitch unless it was on a toprope in an indoor gym, and yet he's passing judgement on granite junkies that were minding their own business back in the day. Licky's not worthy enough to lick our boots, nor our stinky moldy EBs. Phuck him.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
May 24, 2017 - 06:25pm PT
I bought this minus twenty sleepingbag from REI. It was REI brand. It was warm as heck! I could sleep in February at the Pinons a la Eastside when the beer froze in four hours.... But the fabrick ripped open all the time and feathers went everywhere. I woulda been cold were it not for the duct tape. Eventually I added HVAC tape... I still use it cuz Im never cold when I got it. Half of the filll is feathers, not down..... Pics to come
majo

climber
May 29, 2017 - 11:55am PT
Whats this about a plane full of pot landing in a Yosemite Lake?
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
May 29, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
Its about a painful plantar wart that keeps growing back.
zBrown

Ice climber
May 29, 2017 - 10:40pm PT
Anyone resd
a good excert lately?
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jul 19, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
Is Licky still around? Is he still working on the book or is this dead?
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jul 19, 2017 - 10:20pm PT
In the Alpinist. June 1, 2017. http://www.alpinist.com/doc/ALP20/short-pitches-chopping-M-red-rocks-yosemite


Enter Rick Schloss, the latest would-be chronicler, whose 2005 post on www.supertopo.com, announcing his plan to coauthor a nonfiction book on the incident with the pilot's widow, set off a maelstrom of replies. The ensuing two-year thread has become a novel in itself, with cyber-reunions of old Camp 4 friends, paranoid speculations about authorities monitoring the site and nostalgic paens to the wild summer of the Yosemite "Gold Rush." Behind it all the aspiring author has kept a shadowy, persistent presence, commenting on the various arguments, dropping hints about new facts to be revealed in his book, but refusing to give his proof before publication.

Over the telephone, Schloss tells us his own story: he's a fifty-seven-year-old salesman of German industrial equipment, who'd learned to climb in the military and done some soloing in Yosemite, in lug boots, without a guidebook. The pilot's widow, an old high-school friend, had asked him to help her contact the climbing community. Since Schloss had no background in writing or in journalism, his brother, a former detective, taught him the basics of conducting interviews and warned him to be scrupulous when corroborating witness' statements. He soon became intrigued with sifting through the decades of myths to find the "truth"—and equally fascinated by the endless self-perpetuation of the fictitious accounts. Having observed how talking about a far-fetched rumor long enough makes it seem true, he's aware that he's now considered on the forum to be a sort of authority and that he could easily start his own rumors.

As jittery sounding, in some ways, as his Internet correspondents, Schloss won't reveal the name of his agent, his publisher, the title of his book, or the date of publication, but assures us in a compassionate tone that many people want to know what he knows and that all will soon be revealed, perhaps not long after we go to press.

On the other hand, when asked about his motivations, Schloss is effusive. "The truth is important, period. You either write fiction or you don't. Do you write what's true or what someone told you is true—like how I'm telling you all this is true on the phone?"
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2017 - 07:53pm PT
Truth, error, or fake news? Anyone see the issues?

This is what 12 years of research have shown me that occurs when every day people try to retell the story. Some get it right, some get it slightly cattywampus, and a few spew total BS. This makes it very difficult to post or write about the event until I've uncovered the real story to MY satisfaction, not people like Sidmo.
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 3, 2017 - 08:11pm PT
Whew! I thought for a minute it said //2017 Airplane Crash in Yosemite.
//
I guess The Shadow knows, eh.

BTW, don't go sayin that stuff I ordered is in the mail.

If it doesn't get here soon I'm gonna have to cancel negotiations for our joint appeance on the game show.


BTW postscript, they are balking at limiting the categories to just two.

I'll take either FAMOUS WHITE BOY DRUG RINGS OF THESEVENTIES

or

YOSEMITE NP PLANE CRASHES

does sound kinda dumb.

Maybe we should bone up on RUSSIAN URANIUM DEALS??






Sid Mo

climber
Aug 20, 2017 - 07:08pm PT
Some dude writes that he is " jittery sounding" and Lick posts another vague blast at poor ol' SidMo. Wonder what's up with that?
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 20, 2017 - 10:45pm PT
How about a Sidmo-Licky smack down-fest in Las Vegas whilst we wait for the publication of their books and sequels.

Fully 40 years after the "last tango at the lake", folks are now smuggling drogas via semi pilotless airplanes (drones) to the benefit of whom???
Sid Mo

climber
Aug 24, 2017 - 07:56pm PT
Jittery-sounding
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2017 - 10:31pm PT
My latest tact is that there was someone that wanted the plane to crash and someone that wanted the pilots to die. I have so far unearthed evidence that lead to this. It opens up a ton more questions as well as a list of people that were of interest.
Sid Mo

climber
Sep 10, 2017 - 08:59pm PT
Was it me Licky? Did the ol' SidMo gum up the fuel tank? Inquiring minds want to know what "really happened" more than they want to know the truth, 'cause WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. I can't recall if I'm at fault because my mind was clouded by all that pot I was smokin. I was all "hopped up on drugs" and let me tell ya, that Mari J Wanna is some bitch. She took my brain and f*#ked it all kinds of up. So what do I know? I don't even know what I don't know - but Licky does. He's so smart. He's figgerin it all out and gonna write it all down in a book or something. I'm learning to read now in an online class so I can learn all Licky cares to teach us whenever he -(what is it writers do again? Oh yeah I remember) - publishes.
Sid Mo

climber
Sep 12, 2017 - 11:05pm PT
What if Trump bans and burns all books before Licky publishes? Will he still be considered a "writer" for "researching the story" and thrown in prison with all the rest? Or will they give him a pass for voting Republican?
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Sep 13, 2017 - 03:46am PT
Twelve years ago, I shared the local Tuolumne County version of the legend, told by old-timers at the Avery Ranch, in which the co-pilot shot the pilot to steal the load. Licky says Im trolling. Now twelve years later he brings up this murder conspiracy theory. As I said before, the local lore is that the plane took off from the Columbia airport in Tuolomne County, loaded with pot grown around Mount Knight and Jupiter California and crashed in the lake FULL OF FUEL..... A few days after I posted that, I was contacted by Tuolemne County law enforcement....Back then, Supertaco shared peoples personal information on the forum which I didnt know. I thought my identity was secure and anonymous. But since my email is my name, people smeared me and I even got threatening phone calls.... I read that the pilots wife claims the load came from Columbia South America. But I question whether a woman married to a drug trafficker who may have been murdered would tell the truth about where the drugs really came from and who was actually growing it. And yes Ive seen the pictures of Mexican looking sacks that it was packaged in. In 1977 you could get those bags at any headshop in California, including Eucalyptus records in Davis where I grew up.
The only fact that I know for sure is that I didnt want any of our climbing heros to be tarnished or investigated because of this thread. So I stirred up a huge shytstorm to direct attention away from those I mean to protect. And for the record, I was in the valley at a YMCA camp run out of Curry Village in 1977. I was in fifth grade. My councilors who were supposed to be running the camp spent all their time climbing and smoking pot while us kids ran wild around the park unsupervised. I recall waking up late one night and being accustomed to socializing with adults, I went to the campfire where one of my councilors was smoking a pipe. Id never seen a pipe like that before and asked what he was doing. He told me it was weed, which I had seen my older sister smoke. I even asked if I could try it. He said that it was a big secret and that I wasnt supossed to talk about it. I was intrigued that what he was doing was taboo, so of course I was fascinated. He let me smell some of the smoke. But when I tried to convince him to let me hold the pipe, another councilor appeared and scolded him and they took their pipe away into the darkness.
During one of my unsupervised days in the Valley, I went for a swim in the merced river and stepped on a coke bottle. This beautiful angel of a blond climber girl, who was not a councilor at the camp, came to my rescue. She was about 17 years old on a horse. She brought me back to camp. Despite my desire to remain at camp, I ended up getting sent home to recover. I returned to the camp a couple weeks later. That was the year that all our toothpaste and chapstick got taken away because someone allegedly got attacked by a bear while wearing cherry chapstick. The bear was not wearing the chapstick. Back then the valley had free shuttle busses and us kids rode everywhere by ourselves. I caught alot of trout flyfishing. Back then, you could catch fish in every trickle of water in the valley, but it was foolish to keep fish on your person because Bears would follow you. My Dad taught me how to trick bears into going in circles by dragging our catch on the ground in a circle around a tree the year before.
My most poignant memory of the whole experience was that our councilors, three rock climbers, pretty much didnt care about us very much. They were very preoccupied with something else. They were moody, unkempt, overly impressed with themselves and on some kind of mission that we campers were not a part of. They were gone most of the time so we just ran amok by ourselves. Our parents were told that we would be in the tent cabins. But instead they had us all sleep on the ground. There wasnt enough food so we all were hungry most of the time. It was many years ago, and I dont remember their names, but Ive seen some pictures of them on this forum and elsewhere. I remember in the mornings they would gear up for their climbs and bail on us.
There was one gentleman whom I met while playing on part of El Cap apron. He wore black spandex and had a rack of stoppers. I asked him what they were and he told me about climbing. This man was not one of our councilors. But he spent thirty minutes spotting me and helping me solo a tiny slab. It was the best experience of the week. I was nine years old.
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