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Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 8, 2016 - 02:36am PT
That didn't take long,
Good flip flop I forgot to say
Bump
We or many of the faithful
Both in & out of the know
Can not abide that
a book is even being written.
Is A book even being written?
A play on words ?
Not ness ray
the bright light will add
No thing
Necessary nothing
No ray of light will help
Thr Flight if it happened the way
Licking say we would have
Seven to ten more
Novellas
Fo' sure.


The only thing that really needs to be said:


so you want to be a writer?


if it doesn’t come bursting out of you
in spite of everything,
don’t do it.
unless it comes unasked out of your
heart and your mind and your mouth
and your gut,
don’t do it.
if you have to sit for hours
staring at your computer screen
or hunched over your
typewriter
searching for words,
don’t do it.
if you’re doing it for money or
fame,
don’t do it.
if you’re doing it because you want
women in your bed,
don’t do it.
if you have to sit there and
rewrite it again and again,
don’t do it.
if it’s hard work just thinking about doing it,
don’t do it.
if you’re trying to write like somebody
else,
forget about it.


if you have to wait for it to roar out of
you,
then wait patiently.
if it never does roar out of you,
do something else.

if you first have to read it to your wife
or your girlfriend or your boyfriend
or your parents or to anybody at all,
you’re not ready.

don’t be like so many writers,
don’t be like so many thousands of
people who call themselves writers,
don’t be dull and boring and
pretentious, don’t be consumed with self-
love.
the libraries of the world have
yawned themselves to
sleep
over your kind.
don’t add to that.
don’t do it.
unless it comes out of
your soul like a rocket,
unless being still would
drive you to madness or
suicide or murder,
don’t do it.
unless the sun inside you is
burning your gut,
don’t do it.

when it is truly time,
and if you have been chosen,
it will do it by
itself and it will keep on doing it
until you die or it dies in you.

there is no other way.

and there never was.



Charles Bukowski, 1920 - 1994
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jan 8, 2016 - 02:45am PT
Pictures





And







music






zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 8, 2016 - 02:06pm PT
Pictures, eh.




El Chapo recaptured. Rumoured to have foul smell about him. Some liken it to airplane fuel.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/08/drug-lord-el-chapo-has-been-captured-mexican-president-says/

Now if some reward money were made available, don't you think the mystery of the 1977 plane crash could be solved more expeditiously?

Oh yeah, musica?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2658912&tn=20#msg2748279



zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
Near as I can tell, there were no tests done for explosives residue on the fuselage of the plane that went for a swim in the lake one night.

Think about it.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
Zbrown.. Those USDS frats take the whole AZTEC sacrificial thing too seriously...A sabre..?
zBrown

Ice climber
Jan 24, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
Cement ... sho ... er wings.


Sid Mo

climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 07:54pm PT
Damn Lickhead, you ain't done yet? Geez, I left you alone all this time so you could get some writin' did. It was groovy too, not reading this drivel for a while - but then you just had to rattle my cage, didn't you Lickoff? So I get a new tablet, fire it up and peek into your little thread. Big surprise that you had to blast me again, even after all this time. You can't write and its bugging you more and more as you get older and older and older. You'll never finish the book Lickfrench because you don't known how to start - only how to start a thread. I wish I had met you for that coffee only so I'd have a bigger laugh now thinking about what a shmucking phuck you are. Go to hell Lickwound, I'll save you a spot so you can burn with the rest of us. Oh, and bring your "manuscript" - I'll bring my red pencil. Your precious document will bleed like a freshman term paper.

Oh yeah, Pricky. You say some stupid trivia factoid is gonna "put a smile on the reader"- that assumes there will ever be a "reader" - why not put a smile on your publisher and write the damn book already?
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2016 - 10:39pm PT
He does make a pretty good troll doesn't he?
Sid Mo

climber
Feb 14, 2016 - 11:19pm PT
I make a better troll than you do a writer
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 12:42am PT
Why the change in the user id sidmo? Did they axe your account? Or maybe you never were who you claimed to be...what say ye?
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Feb 24, 2016 - 09:05am PT
OMG, grown men?? acting like wee little ones. Life is too beautiful to waste it will all this hate. Sad. Sad. Sad. Open your hearts and love!!!
Sid Mo

climber
Mar 2, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
LICK, this ain't about me motherphucker! I know you want to deflect criticism and the easiest way to do that is to attack the critic, but it doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE A POSER, posing as a writer and a climber and a licky. You should just admit that you're in way over your head and apologize for trying to fake everybody out for TEN DADGUM YEARS. Come clean on this and you might find peace and closure. Or not. Who cares about you anyway? You're just a poser attacking me for a change I made, from Sidmo to Sid Mo. Wow, is that all you got? Ten years and you're quibbling over a blank space in my screen name? The space you need to worry about is the one in your manuscript. Or between your ears.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 2, 2016 - 06:38pm PT
you should just admit that you're in way over your head and apologize for trying to fake everybody out for TEN DADGUM YEARS.

I could give a shite if you apologize and I suspect there are plenty more just like me.

Who cares about you anyway?

You seem to be the only one that really cares-

The only time you every post anything is negative crap on this thread.
However, at least you keep it to this thread...actually you both do so thanks!

I stop by just to see if you two still have hard ons for each other-which I see you do:-)
carry on studs
Kaleponi

Social climber
Kaunakakai, HI
Mar 10, 2016 - 08:54am PT
Enjoying the mature discourse on this old thread! Check out what my bud has in his bar in Honolulu:
Sid Mo

climber
Mar 15, 2016 - 11:55am PT
D-Dog, what's this homophobic crap about hardons have to do with anything? You brought up genatalia for what I think might be the first time on this extended thread. Talk about negativity. I guess if it's not in your mouth it's on your mind. As I said, licky needs to come clean And I guess you need to come out of the closet, whoever the phuck you are.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 15, 2016 - 02:04pm PT
Cars seem to go down in value with the passage of time. Crashed airplanes? I can't say. Lots of books go up in value, but I think that is after they are published.

Sid Mo

climber
Mar 15, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
Yeah if licky would stop procrastinating I could invest in a first edition. But is it a first edition if there is no second? I'm certain that The Plane will be a bestseller, probably soar to the top of NYT list. Why heck, Lick's probably dotting the last I and crossing the last T as we speak. I'm gonna set my tent up at Barnes and Nobles so I'm sure to get my copy before the first run sells out.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 17, 2016 - 09:36am PT
Sometimes things just take 60-70 years.



At the time, it was the deadliest airplane disaster in history. After rescue crews left the scene, nobody could find the site again for decades.
'

http://www.kpbs.org/news/2016/mar/03/70-years-plane-crash-poway-pilot-finds-wreckage/
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 17, 2016 - 10:28am PT
Cool story zBrown, I guess after 70 years all the "fun stuff" had been hauled off.

that article alone is better than Licky's book at this point. I have another 20 years in me, so I can wait him out.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 09:01pm PT
Kaleponi, will you email me? Thanks, Rick
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