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SGropp

Mountain climber
Eastsound, Wa
Sep 8, 2011 - 01:25am PT
There used to be a tee shirt that said something to the effect that

'' Climbing is hard, but it's easier than growing up !''

This thread definitely proves it.
BASE104

climber
An Oil Field
Sep 8, 2011 - 03:24am PT
I have been wondering about the nature of the hooking on this route, or the endless others that could go up right next to it.

You know that people are taking whippers. I am curious how much damage this does. Example being how long will the hook moves last. Even hooking on a good edge starts to get pretty worn after a while.
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 8, 2011 - 08:46am PT
It has to happen, to even the best thread. Eventually they all get overwhelmed by the mass of idiots crushing to get onboard.

The best of threads? You think these threads just now turned idiotic?
BASE104

climber
An Oil Field
Sep 8, 2011 - 12:40pm PT
DMT,

I just know that there were a lot of falls on both the FA and SA. How many were caused by breaking the placements? It only takes one, ya know.

It is just that hooks wear on the rock. They put a lot of pressure on a tiny point. From the talk of all the whippers Ammon took, I wonder how many were due to ripping off hook placements, and how it might have gotten harder. I am sure you have seen hook moves that have gotten dished out by a lot of travel.

A route like WOS might only be able to stand a small number of repeats. No kidding. If it is hooking little crystals, some are gonna blow.
squishy

Mountain climber
Sac town
Sep 8, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
just bring some tin foil up there and make some time bombs, gawd you guys have small balls, ammon is the sh#t...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 8, 2011 - 05:28pm PT
Dead Bears Don't Wear Plaid






oh, sorry! wrong thread,..
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 8, 2011 - 06:30pm PT
A route like WOS might only be able to stand a small number of repeats. No kidding. If it is hooking little crystals, some are gonna blow.

By all accounts, the same might be said about most routes on El Capitan. The rock on them is in considerably different physical condition than on the first ascent. The Shield being perhaps the poster child.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 8, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
The Spy Who Sh#t On Me
The Chronicles of El Capitan: The Crying, The Bitch, and the ButtLoad.
Meet the Shitters
Crap Away
How to Train Your Anus
3 Men and a Dukey
BASE104

climber
An Oil Field
Sep 9, 2011 - 05:45am PT
By all accounts, the same might be said about most routes on El Capitan. The rock on them is in considerably different physical condition than on the first ascent. The Shield being perhaps the poster child.

That is not what I mean, MH. Sure, the Shield got the crap beaten out of it, but breaking off hooking features leads directly to new holes. The more repeats, the more holes.

Not really a judgment on the route, just a guess.
ChampionSleeper

Trad climber
Phoenix, AZ
Sep 9, 2011 - 10:13am PT
Pooperman
Bravefart.
Da_Dweeb

climber
Sep 9, 2011 - 10:21am PT
I just noticed this little gem, written by Duane Raleigh for Rock and Ice.

http://rockandice.com/component/content/article/37-tnb/1519-tnb-slander-slabs

Also interesting, Jeff Vargen mentioned that an interview for the film took place with someone "in disguise" who answered one of the route's longest standing questions. I wonder what that might be.

Further, some incredibly handsome devil with a penchant for victorian era swag just contributed $25.
Hummerchine

Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
Sep 9, 2011 - 11:13am PT
I also read the book recently, and it really is quite good. Not sure what I was expecting, but it's a quick and fascinating tale of an epic climb. Worth every penny of the 97 cents it ran me on Amazon.com.

And the forward by Warren Harding is CLASSIC!
Da_Dweeb

climber
Sep 9, 2011 - 11:32am PT
Hummerchine, I'm looking at the foreword, and I realize I missed out on this particular bit of history. Who was Warren J. Harding? How does he fit into all of this?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Sep 9, 2011 - 11:37am PT
Wings Of Repetition.

Wings Of Dead Horse.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 9, 2011 - 11:57am PT
Somebody shoot that ignorant Dweeb.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:03pm PT
Harding "dated" Richard's mom a couple of years after the WOS FA. And for a couple of years as well. As you all know, Harding was really losing it horribly at the end. Richard and Mark did not know Harding before then, so Harding did not have any direct personal influence on their Harding-like ascent.
Da_Dweeb

climber
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:12pm PT
Oh, this guy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Harding_%28climber%29
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:31pm PT
Harding "dated" Richard's mom a couple of years after the WOS FA. And for a couple of years as well.

It took 2934 posts before we finally get to the gud stuff?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:36pm PT
The most unused wall hammer in the world, courtesy of fatty.
squishy

Mountain climber
Sac town
Sep 9, 2011 - 12:44pm PT
"Slander Slabs"

? totally ghey, we can come up with way better names for your articles...
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